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Mac Forum / Applications / MS Office / February 2005formatting lost from word v.X to 2004
I have office 2004 installed on two computers in my home - a powerbook and a powermac. I was testing office 2004 on my powerbook and when I felt that everything was okay, I installed it on my powermac. Problem is, it didn't behave the same way on my desktop machine. Opening v.X docs in word 2004 on the powerbook was fine - all the formatting seemed to be retained. However, opening word v.X docs in 2004 on my desktop machine yielded quite different results. I saw two main problems: 1. all my bullet points were turned into infinity signs 2. somehow the formatting changed slightly enough to push the text that used to fit on one page onto a second page (the effect was amplified by the fact that I had a page break on the bottom of the first page which was not shifted to the second page) Can anyone offer any suggestions on why this might be happened and what I can do to fix it? The frustrating thing is that I believe this is isolated to the install of 2004 on my desktop since word v.X works fine on the desktop and v.X AND 2004 work fine on my laptop. Though I had considered just reformatting my documents, I am reluctant to because when I open the reformatted docs either in v.X or in 2004 on my laptop, the formatting is off again. In other words, I think word 2004 on my desktop is using some odd template to format my documents which no other install of word is doing. The first issue is whether you have the same fonts on both systems. If not that could account for most of your problems. Secondly, are the systems set at the same resolution? This also can cause some of the behavior you cited. As far as templates, if there was a custom template used in the creation of a document & that template file is not available when the doc is opened on another system, the text may flow differently in many cases. Normally, though, such things as margins, indents, tabs, styles, etc. are carried with the doc. Hope this is helpful |:>) > The first issue is whether you have the same fonts on both systems. If > not that could account for most of your problems. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Hope this is helpful |:>) Are they composing to the same printers? This could also explain the page breaks. Valid concern from a printing perspective, but shouldn't have impact on display unless min. margin settings are radically different. I got the impression that the primary concern was screen display although printing would also be effected. |:>) yes, the fonts on the two systems are the same - at least the ones in the library->fonts folder and the ms office 2004->office->fonts folder are the same. I did a little digging into the formatting of the bullet points and found that the symbol font used by word v.X seems to be different from the symbol font used for word 2004 on the same system. this seemed odd to me since both are running of the same library of fonts and the office v.X folder doesn't contain the symbol font. I took a screen shot of the word v.X keyboard mapping and the word 2004 keyboard mapping. The top is the word 2004 window and the bottom is the word v.X window. Notice that the bullet point hilighted in the bottom window is mapped to an infinity sign on top. So I guess the question now is how do I determine which system font word 2004 is using and why are the key mapping different? http://home.earthlink.net/~my_yardsale/symbol_font_mapping.pdf I also checked the page setup to see if the printers for formatting are the same and they are. The other odd thing I noticed when I was testing was that if I install office 2004 on a different partition (I have one that I play around with running 10.3) and try to open the same document, there are no problems with formatting of bullets. I don't know. You might want to repost the question on the word-specific group, there are a few more font experts there. Word 2004 is now Unicode, Word X wasn't, they did change font versions, but I don't really understand how it all works. http://groups-beta.google.com/group/microsoft.public.mac.office.word Since a different partition works, you might also try a new user. If a new user works, running through these tests might fix the old user, or it might be easier to just move over to the new user account. Standard Troubleshooting Suggestions here: http://word.mvps.org/MacWordNew/TroubleshootingIndex.htm (hit refresh a few times in Safari, or use a different browser) > yes, the fonts on the two systems are the same - at least the ones in > the library->fonts folder and the ms office 2004->office->fonts folder [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > have one that I play around with running 10.3) and try to open the same > document, there are no problems with formatting of bullets.  SignatureDaiya Mitchell, MVP Mac/Word Word FAQ: http://www.word.mvps.org/ MacWord Tips: <http://www.word.mvps.org/MacWordNew/> What's an MVP? A volunteer! Read the FAQ: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Good idea Daiya, will do. In regards to you suggestion, I did try it with a different user on the same partition and it displayed the same problems that I saw with the formatting and the bullets which leads me to believe it's a problem with some shared settings across users. I'll also take a look at the mvps troubleshooting page. Thank you. I found the problem. For some strange reason, word 2004 was referencing a different font for the "symbol" font (which is uses for the bullets and numbering). The tricky thing was that this font wasn't called "symbol" so I couldn't really find it. The Font Book helped out in this case cause when I went to the font book and looked at the Symbol font, there were 3 versions of it. One of them was called ~MathType Fonts. I don't know how it got in there, or why Word used that instead of the regular Symbol font, but when I trashed that file, everything was fixed. **YEAH** |
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