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Andreas Ullrich - 22 Feb 2005 06:40 GMT
Hi Guys,

I am just wondering why I can¹t receive any emails of my hotmail account in
MS Entourage? I have been using Entourage to check for my hotmail email
since 2001.

I am using Office 2004 v11.0.0.

Error message I receive:
Connection to the server failed or was dropped.

Explanation
The Hotmail folder list could not be received.

I¹ve had check my settings and as always they are correct.

Any help would be great!

Regards
Andreas
Paul Ballou - 22 Feb 2005 07:30 GMT
Hotmail Failure!!!If you have recently been experiencing problems I believe it may be with the server. I have recently been experiencing problems myself that sometimes I can access my Hotmail account then other times I get error messages but keep trying and eventually make the connection.

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 Hi Guys,

 I am just wondering why I can't receive any emails of my hotmail account in MS Entourage? I have been using Entourage to check for my hotmail email since 2001.

 I am using Office 2004 v11.0.0.

 Error message I receive:
 Connection to the server failed or was dropped.

 Explanation
 The Hotmail folder list could not be received.

 I've had check my settings and as always they are correct.

 Any help would be great!

 Regards
 Andreas
Andreas Ullrich - 22 Feb 2005 09:01 GMT
I¹ve had been trying for the past 9 days without any luck of accessing
hotmail.

Regards
Andreas

On 22/2/05 6:00 PM, in article e8QzWBLGFHA.2156@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl, "Paul
Ballou" <A26milerunner@hotmail.com> wrote:

> If you have recently been experiencing problems I believe it may be with the
> server. I have recently been experiencing problems myself that sometimes I can
> access my Hotmail account then other times I get error messages but keep
> trying and eventually make the connection.
Eric Olson - 22 Feb 2005 15:13 GMT
Re: Hotmail Failure!!!
Microsoft's Knowledgebase article 327041 states:

A recent change to MSN Hotmail means users with a standard free Hotmail
account are no longer able to use the POP Mail Retrieval feature. This means
users of free Hotmail are not able to combine e-mail from other accounts
into a single Hotmail account. However, MSN Extra Storage subscribers and
MSN Internet Access subscribers with Web-based e-mail can continue to
aggregate e-mail from other accounts into a single Hotmail account.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;327041

This may have something to do with the problem you described.

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I've had been trying for the past 9 days without any luck of accessing
hotmail.

Regards
Andreas

On 22/2/05 6:00 PM, in article e8QzWBLGFHA.2156@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl, "Paul
Ballou" <A26milerunner@hotmail.com> wrote:

If you have recently been experiencing problems I believe it may be with the
server. I have recently been experiencing problems myself that sometimes I
can access my Hotmail account then other times I get error messages but keep
trying and eventually make the connection.
Andreas Ullrich - 22 Feb 2005 21:51 GMT
That's not fair now. With Gmail I can access the email with entourage and
that's not a Microsoft software how funny is that. I may use Gmail from now
on. It has been great with hotmail since I started with them way back in 22
Dec 1998. Never mind.

Regards
Andreas

On 23/2/05 1:43 AM, in article eRV1UEPGFHA.1264@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl, "Eric
Olson" <eolson@online.microsoft.com> wrote:

> Re: Hotmail Failure!!!
> Microsoft's Knowledgebase article 327041 states:
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> This may have something to do with the problem you described.
Andreas Ullrich - 22 Feb 2005 22:23 GMT
But I could still access Hotmail emails until the 8 Feb 2005.

On 23/2/05 1:43 AM, in article eRV1UEPGFHA.1264@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl, "Eric
Olson" <eolson@online.microsoft.com> wrote:

> Re: Hotmail Failure!!!
> Microsoft's Knowledgebase article 327041 states:
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> This may have something to do with the problem you described.
Eric Olson - 23 Feb 2005 00:17 GMT
Entourage uses Distributed Authoring and Versioning (DAV). Here is a more
relevant article:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;%5bLN%5d;878462

MSN Hotmail no longer supports Distributed Authoring and Versioning (DAV)
for free user accounts. Outlook Express uses the DAV interface to connect to
Hotmail. Only paid Hotmail accounts will work correctly with Outlook
Express. If you configured Outlook Express or Outlook to access your Hotmail
account before DAV support was ended, you may still be able to use Outlook
Express to open a free Hotmail account. However, eventually Hotmail will no
longer support DAV for all free Hotmail accounts.

****
The key term here being "Eventually". I'm not sure how or when this will
happen. I do know that I can access my free hotmail account with Entourage
today. I don't know how much longer that will be the case.

If everything else is configured correctly, then this may be the issue.
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> But I could still access Hotmail emails until the 8 Feb 2005.
>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>>
>> This may have something to do with the problem you described.
Andreas Ullrich - 23 Feb 2005 03:26 GMT
So you all telling me if I sign up with Hotmail to get DAV then it should
work again with Entourage? Right!

On what part of the Microsoft page can I find out how much it will cost to
get access through Entourage? Australian dollars.

Thanks.
Andreas

On 23/2/05 10:47 AM, in article ewOgV0TGFHA.936@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl, "Eric
Olson" <eolson@online.microsoft.com> wrote:

> Entourage uses Distributed Authoring and Versioning (DAV). Here is a more
> relevant article:
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> If everything else is configured correctly, then this may be the issue.
Daiya Mitchell - 23 Feb 2005 05:23 GMT
I definitely remember seeing announcements that POP access for free accounts
would be phased out around April 2005. However, I assume it's a question of
gradually switching over accounts and servers, so who knows how it will
actually go. There's no guarantee this is really your problem right now.

POP access will be part of the feature set for a paid account--don't they
send you ads for it every so often?  I think it's around $20US here.

You might want to search the entourage group for more information.
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/microsoft.public.mac.office.entourage
At least one person there was having mysterious difficulties that cleared up
with a paid account.

> So you all telling me if I sign up with Hotmail to get DAV then it should
> work again with Entourage? Right!
>
> On what part of the Microsoft page can I find out how much it will cost to
> get access through Entourage? Australian dollars.
Fredrik Wahlgren - 23 Feb 2005 14:33 GMT
> So you all telling me if I sign up with Hotmail to get DAV then it should
> work again with Entourage? Right!
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Thanks.
> Andreas

Yes. But remember that other email providers, like gmail,  offer the same
functionality for free. Why pay for hotmail?

/Fredrik
JE McGimpsey - 23 Feb 2005 16:28 GMT
>  But remember that other email providers, like gmail,  offer the same
> functionality for free.

For now...<g>
Axel Hammerschmidt - 23 Feb 2005 19:08 GMT
> >  But remember that other email providers, like gmail,  offer the same
> > functionality for free.
>
> For now...<g>

And in the long run, we'll all be dead!

Here's another. Microsoft promised 250MB disk space with free Hotmail
accounts, when Google launched gmail (beta).

Now, on Hotmail login, Microsoft Corporation writes:

250MB inbox available only in the 50 United States, District of
Columbia, and Puerto Rico. Eligible Hotmail users will first receive
25MB at sign-up. Please allow at least 30 days for activation of your
250MB storage to verify your e-mail account and help prevent abuse.
Microsoft Corporation reserves the right to provide 250MB inbox to free
Hotmail accounts at its discretion.
JE McGimpsey - 23 Feb 2005 19:48 GMT
> Here's another. Microsoft promised 250MB disk space with free Hotmail
> accounts, when Google launched gmail (beta).
>
> Now, on Hotmail login, Microsoft Corporation writes:

Sorry-  didn't mean to come across as defending hotmail. I'd would never
use either hotmail or gmail.
Axel Hammerschmidt - 23 Feb 2005 21:33 GMT
> > Here's another. Microsoft promised 250MB disk space with free Hotmail
> > accounts, when Google launched gmail (beta).
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Sorry-  didn't mean to come across as defending hotmail. I'd would never
> use either hotmail or gmail.

Ok! I just think that someone should take Microsoft Corporation to task
on this one.
Andreas Ullrich - 23 Feb 2005 21:54 GMT
I have gone with Gmail now and its much better with Entourage non of this
failures.

On 24/2/05 1:03 AM, in article OHkMnUbGFHA.3608@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl,

>> So you all telling me if I sign up with Hotmail to get DAV then it should
>> work again with Entourage? Right!
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> /Fredrik
Mickey Stevens - 26 Feb 2005 17:38 GMT
Download and install the latest Office 2004 update, which is Office 2004
Service Pack 1.  Service Pack 1 includes a number of fixes that are
documented in this article on the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
<http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=883951>

In Office 2004, use Microsoft AutoUpdate to get the latest updates.  From
any Office application, go to Help > Check for Updates (or manually launch
Microsoft AutoUpdate from the Applications folder).  If any updates are
needed, they will display in a sheet, at which point you can check them and
press the "Install" button to download and install them.

Updates can also be found at the Microsoft web site:
<http://www.microsoft.com/mac/downloads.aspx#Office2004>

On 2/22/05 12:40 AM, in article BE4117F8.51AB%nimitz2@hotmail.com, "Andreas
Ullrich" <nimitz2@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Guys,
>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> Regards
> Andreas

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