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Ricky, please help me!

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mirj - 27 Aug 2004 01:37 GMT
Ricky, in tonight's wee hours, when you look over the postings in this
newsgroup, I hope you will   take a look at my query of 8/25, re doubling of
incoming mail on OE 5.0.6.  I've searched high and low, all the techiegrim
Q&A, etc.  and can't find an answer anywhere.

I am counting on you to tell me what to do.

Many thanx!

mirj
Richard Grieve Mac MVP - 27 Aug 2004 19:42 GMT
> Ricky, in tonight's wee hours, when you look over the postings in this
> newsgroup, I hope you will   take a look at my query of 8/25, re doubling of
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>
> mirj

Hi,

I've not had much time to look at the group recently (never move house
unless you're forced to do so at gunpoint!)

How does your account look like when you view it through Online Access in
OE?

<http://homepage.ntlworld.com/techie.grim/macfaq/articles/050.html>

What about deleting the Rules file in your Identities folder?

Ricky
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protecting yourself from newsgroup spam.

mirj - 27 Aug 2004 21:32 GMT
Ricky, viewed though online access, the account looks totally normal.
Discard my Rules? What a pain that would be! Before I resort to that, tell
me if I could do a test run by  moving them from the Identities folder to
the DT and see if it helps?

mirj

>> Ricky, in tonight's wee hours, when you look over the postings in this
>> newsgroup, I hope you will   take a look at my query of 8/25, re doubling of
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>
> Ricky
Richard Grieve Mac MVP - 28 Aug 2004 18:06 GMT
> Ricky, viewed though online access, the account looks totally normal.
> Discard my Rules? What a pain that would be! Before I resort to that, tell
> me if I could do a test run by  moving them from the Identities folder to
> the DT and see if it helps?
>
> mirj

Yes, moving your Rules file to the Desktop and then attempting to launch OE
again should be sufficient to test if the rules are at fault.

Ricky
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mirj - 02 Sep 2004 16:44 GMT
I am still getting all my messages doubled. I have a sound set for incoming
messages, so I hear one coming in, then four seconds later, its duplicate
arrives. Removing the identity rules had no effect. What else can I trash?
(I am going to be more careful about my instinct to trash what seems
unnecessary since last night, cleaning up my husband's crash-prone 6500, I
included several asian sounding text encoding files in my cleanup, then
found all his web sites filled with gobbledygook!)

mirj

>> Ricky, viewed though online access, the account looks totally normal.
>> Discard my Rules? What a pain that would be! Before I resort to that, tell
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>
> Ricky
Ian_ - 05 Sep 2004 21:41 GMT
mirj wrote on 2/9/2004 4:44 pm:

> text encoding files
Arghhhh!

Leave them well alone!  :-)

Needed (as you found out) by various applications, crucial for the OS!

Depending on your OS;
When using MacOS 8.6 with the extension "Text Encoding Converter" 1.4.2 or
1.4.3 installed, you should update the "Text Encoding Converter" extension
to version 1.5. (along with the languages).
This will fix most of the web crashes.

You can get the "Text Encoding Converter 1.5" here:
<ftp://ftp.apple.com/developer/Development_Kits/TEC_1.5.sit.hqx>

Version 1.6 included with OS 9.2.1.

Hope you have a backup, or are able to install using TomeViewer, (so you
don't have to do a full install, just get the bits you need) have a look on
VersionTracker.com.

HTH,         &B-)          Ian
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mirj - 06 Sep 2004 16:09 GMT
Ian, I seem to have solved that problem OK! Do you have any advice about my
persistently doubled incoming messages?????????

Mirj

ibook [Power PC G3]....Mac OS 9.2.2....OE 5.0.6.....

mirj wrote on 2/9/2004 4:44 pm:

text encoding files
Arghhhh!

Leave them well alone!  :-)

Needed (as you found out) by various applications, crucial for the OS!

Depending on your OS;
When using MacOS 8.6 with the extension "Text Encoding Converter" 1.4.2 or
1.4.3 installed, you should update the "Text Encoding Converter" extension
to version 1.5. (along with the languages).
This will fix most of the web crashes.

You can get the "Text Encoding Converter 1.5" here:
<ftp://ftp.apple.com/developer/Development_Kits/TEC_1.5.sit.hqx>

Version 1.6 included with OS 9.2.1.

Hope you have a backup, or are able to install using TomeViewer, (so you
don't have to do a full install, just get the bits you need) have a look on
VersionTracker.com.

HTH,         &B-)          Ian
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Ian_ - 10 Sep 2004 02:48 GMT
mirj wrote on 6/9/2004 4:09 pm:

> Ian, I seem to have solved that problem OK! Do you have any advice about my
> persistently doubled incoming messages?????????
>
> Mirj
Do you have more than one Account set up?
Inadvertantly double checking, (the 1st one leaving emails on the server),
unlikely though!
Or, possibly; Tools, Accounts, Mail, Edit, Options, Leave on Server?
So they are picked up twice.

Or a Schedule, which is rather too frequent, so not letting a busy mail
server realise you've already got them?
If a server is running slow due to spam or virus problems, or even having to
be restarted, after frequent crashes, this may give your result.

I had a similar problem briefly, when I (unwisely) left MSOE open, while
browsing with MSIE, which crashed. THEN I had duplicates...

> ibook [Power PC G3]....Mac OS 9.2.2....OE 5.0.6.....
ditto!

Seen the posts about battery life? <comp.sys.mac.portables>
Also <www.apple.com/batteries/>

____________________________________
Copied from an earlier Ricky message

Hi all,

As a useful note to any people that have not posted here before, I suggest
that you employ a spamtrap method to avoid your e-mail address being
harvested and put on spam mailing lists.  A lot of people have contacted me
about this recently, and I can only reiterate that prevention is better than
cure.

So, for those new users out there that intend to post here (or anywhere else
for that matter), take a look at the following document I've written to help
Outlook Express users prevent their e-mail addresses from being collected by
spammers...

<http://homepage.ntlworld.com/techie.grim/macfaq/articles/046.html>

<snip>

HTH, Ricky
>> Thanks Ricky!

HTH,         &B-)          Ian
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mimi - 10 Sep 2004 03:31 GMT
Ian, Thanks for your good suggestions.  You were right on target and led me
to the solution.

But when you say:

<......I (unwisely) left MSOE open, while browsing with MSIE, which crashed.
THEN I had duplicates...>

Are you saying that it is a mistake to keep both applications open at the
same time? I always keep them both open! I have never heard that piece of
advice before....

mirj

> From: Ian_ <anonymouse@waitrose.com>
> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.internet.outlookexpress.mac
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>> ibook [Power PC G3]....Mac OS 9.2.2....OE 5.0.6.....
> ditto!
Ian_ - 13 Sep 2004 22:29 GMT
Good news, so which was it?
Ah, a change of personality, anti-spam! Hope that helps too.

mimi wrote on 10/9/2004 3:31 am:

> But when you say:
>
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> Are you saying that it is a mistake to keep both applications open at the
> same time?
Only when MSIE crashes!
Then you may find some "Rescued Items" in the Trash.

> I always keep them both open!
> I have never heard that piece of advice before....
Precautionary, lets hope it doesn't happen (too often!)

HTH,         &B-)          Ian
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