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Publisher and Money for Mac/Next Version of Office

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sebpayne@gmail.com - 02 Nov 2005 21:58 GMT
After reading through the archives on Google Groups, Publisher and
Money seem to be the most wanted programmes for OS X. I think that if
MacBU persuaded the rest of Microsoft to get these into Office 200x, it
would be smashing! Publisher is a becoming a must for me. I know Pages
from iWork is good but not as good as Publisher and can't read files.

Also, when is the next version due out? Will it be 2006 or 2007? What
sort of features will this have?

Thanks

Seb
Jim Gordon MVP - 04 Nov 2005 03:02 GMT
Hi Seb,

The Mac Business Unit at Microsoft works more like an independent
company than you might expect. Essentially, they can make whatever they
want as long as they make a reasonable profit. It's not a matter of
MacBU persuading other parts of Microsoft to get these into Mac Office,
it's a matter of them deciding whether or not adding these products will
sell enough units and a price that will generate a profit.

There's another big change coming from Apple: Macs on Intel processors.
This is a big change for developers - maybe even as big or in some cases
bigger than going from OS9 to OSX. Expect the next new versions of all
the major programs (not just Microsoft) to be pretty much the same as
the previous versions but that they will run on Macs with Intel chips.

Like with OSX, expect a gradual introduction and gradual adoption of the
 Intel-ready versions of your favorite software titles. I doubt Apple
will announce the whole line of computers has changed to Intel in one
swoop. Jobs pretty much said at his announcement about Intel chips that
the change will be incremental.

Developers can now get Macs with Intel chips to get software ready.
There are a variety of factors that will affect the ultimate timing of
the next versions of everything: chip availability, software
availability, market timing, and maybe the phase of the moon.

Expect a lot of hoopla when the first publicly available Macs with Intel
chips hit the market. At that time you will likely see at least
something from most major software developers.

Check the rumor sites for the latest scuttlebutt about timing. I
wouldn't want to hazard a guess.

-Jim

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> After reading through the archives on Google Groups, Publisher and
> Money seem to be the most wanted programmes for OS X. I think that if
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> Seb
Seb - 04 Nov 2005 11:41 GMT
Hey Jim

Thanks for the awesome answer. It is cool to be talking to a Microsoft
MVP guy.

> The Mac Business Unit at Microsoft works more like an independent
> company than you might expect. Essentially, they can make whatever they
> want as long as they make a reasonable profit. It's not a matter of
> MacBU persuading other parts of Microsoft to get these into Mac Office,
> it's a matter of them deciding whether or not adding these products will
> sell enough units and a price that will generate a profit.

Totally understood. Just wondering what the likely hood of this is.

> There's another big change coming from Apple: Macs on Intel processors.
> This is a big change for developers - maybe even as big or in some cases
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> Check the rumor sites for the latest scuttlebutt about timing. I
> wouldn't want to hazard a guess.

Pretty cool stuff - even though I never metioned the Move to x86 :-). I
guess this means the next version of Office will be a universal binary.
Just bought a Mac Mini and love that damn machine. I knew the Intel
Macs were coming but as someone said, I didn't buy it for the machine
but the great OS. The Mac Mini is also a very very nice machine. If it
can last me three or four years I'll be happy. The Questions is though,
how long will Apple support PowerPC and produce OS X for PowerPC. I
guess once Apple stop this, other developers will gradually follow.

Obviously, I realise you can't say too much but is there any chance
that more programmes (from Windows) will appear in the next version of
Office. Office 2004 is totally sweet and has allowed me to use OS X
full time - although I still have  Windows PC for Publisher! Keep up
the good work guys, you are doing a great job.

Seb
Barry Wainwright [MVP] - 04 Nov 2005 13:38 GMT
On 4/11/05 10:41, in article
1131100908.726236.26970@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com, "Seb"
<sebpayne@gmail.com> wrote:

> Pretty cool stuff - even though I never metioned the Move to x86 :-). I
> guess this means the next version of Office will be a universal binary.

I believe (although I can't now find the quote) that MS said "they will
support macintel AND PPC.

Ah, found it:
<http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/releases/20050606corp.htm>

> We plan to create future versions of Microsoft Office for the Mac that support
> both PowerPC and Intel processors,²

I have not seen any press release that states there will be a single
universal binary, although I agree, that would be the most preferable.

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darkrats - 25 Dec 2005 03:57 GMT
A question comes to mind here:

Will current software written for OSX, say on the Macmini, be able to run on
the Intel Macs? Will Mac software written for the new Intel Macs run on the
current Macs?

Thanks.

> Hi Seb,
>
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>> Seb
Jim Gordon MVP - 26 Dec 2005 19:00 GMT
Good questions!

To the first one: Some software will run on intel Macs. Some won't. For
the past year Apple has encouraged developers to make dual binaries
compiled for both PPC and intel Macs. I'm sure you'll hear a lot about
this at MacWorld Jan 6, 2006.

Some software might be backwards compatible. The more the software
touches the hardware, the less likely it is to be backwards compatible.

-Jim

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> A question comes to mind here:
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>>>Seb
Theresa - 13 Nov 2005 19:11 GMT
> After reading through the archives on Google Groups, Publisher and
> Money seem to be the most wanted programmes for OS X. I think that if
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> Seb

What do you plan to do with the Publisher file? Print things onto your
own printer,  or give it to a printer?
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Seb - 30 Nov 2005 09:25 GMT
I have solved the problem as I have just bought a new Mac Mini which
included iWork 2005 and Pages. Pages suits my needs perfectly and I
have managed to move bits from Publisher over to Pages.

Also, how long will MBU continue to produce PowerPC versions of Office
for Mac? As I said, having just bought a Mac Mini, Office is my most
used application!

Thanks for the help guys

Seb

(Theresa: It was for my own printer)
Barry Wainwright [MVP] - 12 Dec 2005 13:19 GMT
On 30/11/05 09:25, in article
1133342739.777107.142070@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, "Seb"
<sebpayne@gmail.com> wrote:

> Also, how long will MBU continue to produce PowerPC versions of Office
> for Mac? As I said, having just bought a Mac Mini, Office is my most
> used application!

They haven't said, and I wouldn't expect them to give any open-ended
promises.

What they have said tis that "future versions will support MacIntel and
PowerPC"

This implies that the next version and the one after that will support PPC -
this seems reasonable. The OS requirements for Office 2004 go back to Jaguar
(10.2.x), so it seems likely that the next version will support at least 2
earlier operating systems.

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