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Homer J. Fong - 03 Apr 2004 06:30 GMT

1. Is there any way to get Mozilla to display longer names in the
personal toolbar? If I drag the bookmark for versiontracker.com to the
toolbar, all I see is "Version Tracke..." Every other web browser can
display long names...is this on the drawing board for Mozilla?

2. Will Mozilla ever ditch the "user profile" model? With OS X, and
everyone having an individual account, this is no longer necessary. It
also makes it a pain to have a "master profile" on a master disk image
(configured with all the bookmarks and preferences you want). When the
image is copied to the client computer, it insists on making a new user
profile. All the other browsers don't have this problem.

I hope these problems are solved -- Mozilla is by far the fastest at
rendering pages (pages don't really render in Mozilla...they just
appear, it's that fast).

Homer

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Jerry Talkington - 03 Apr 2004 14:36 GMT

> 2. Will Mozilla ever ditch the "user profile" model? With OS X, and
> everyone having an individual account, this is no longer necessary. It
> also makes it a pain to have a "master profile" on a master disk image
> (configured with all the bookmarks and preferences you want). When the
> image is copied to the client computer, it insists on making a new user
> profile. All the other browsers don't have this problem.

No, multiple profiles are very necessary. Users with one profile
(should) never get prompted to select a profile, so it's seemless to
them. However, multiple profiles are useful for many things such as:

a) Moz Developers. They can try out code fixes, etc. without blowing
away their day to day browsing preferences.

b) Themers. They can test out new themes in a clean profile, to make
sure they work.

c) Extension developers, for testing.

d) People using VPNs to access private lans via the Internet (e.g. I
have separate profile for browsing internal work sites from my
house/laptop via a proxy, but I don't want Internet traffic to go
through the work proxy. A proxy.pac isn't possible, because private IP
address and names conflict on my home LAN conflict with work.)

I'm sure there are plenty of other uses that I haven't listed, but there
really is no compelling remove this functionality. If it's not seemless
to a user with a single profile, then that's a bug.

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Homer J. Fong - 09 Apr 2004 02:27 GMT

> > 2. Will Mozilla ever ditch the "user profile" model? With OS X, and
> > everyone having an individual account, this is no longer necessary. It
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> really is no compelling remove this functionality. If it's not seemless
> to a user with a single profile, then that's a bug.

Then how about an OPTION to turn it off? For those of us who are not
developers and have no use for the added "features" that individual
profiles provide. Give the user the freedom to decide. That would be
nice.

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Jerry Talkington - 09 Apr 2004 12:48 GMT

> > I'm sure there are plenty of other uses that I haven't listed, but there
> > really is no compelling remove this functionality. If it's not seemless
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> profiles provide. Give the user the freedom to decide. That would be
> nice.

What is it that you want the option to remove? With only one profile,
you should never be prompted to select a profile, so it doesn't even
appear that multiple profiles are possible. You have to manually create
additional profiles and enable the profile manager, so that's not a
problem for people who want just one profile.

All of the settings must be saved somewhere, so they into
~/Library/<program>/<profilename>/<random>.slt/

There will probably never be an option to remove the
<profilename>/<random>.slt/ directories, since changing that would
introduce a considerable amount of coding effort, with a high
probability of unstableness, and no benefit. Most people don't go
poking around in the profile directories, and those who do generally
have more than one profile.

If there is some point that I'm missing, then please elaborate, because
I'm at a loss as to why you'd want to remove functionality that is
invisible to the typical end user anyway.

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riscky - 16 Apr 2004 01:35 GMT

>> On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 09:27:19PM -0400, Homer J. Fong wrote:
>>Then how about an OPTION to turn it off? For those of us who are not
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> I'm at a loss as to why you'd want to remove functionality that is
> invisible to the typical end user anyway.

I *think* what Homer's problem is one of two things...

1.) has more than one copy/version of the Suite, Firefox or Thunderbird installed and launches the
the other copy while one is already running... prompting the Profile Manager

or most likly...

2.) would like to see a flat profile... a la camino or safari... so the Mozilla folder (or
Firefox/Thunderbird) and directly inside that folder are all the prefs... basically neglectiong all
of the security that the *.slt provides...

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Homer J. Fong - 09 Apr 2004 02:30 GMT

...and I'm guessing we're stuck with truncated bookmark names in the
personal toolbar. Is there/will there ever be a way to get the entire
name to show? (like every other browser can)

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riscky - 16 Apr 2004 01:47 GMT

> ...and I'm guessing we're stuck with truncated bookmark names in the
> personal toolbar. Is there/will there ever be a way to get the entire
> name to show? (like every other browser can)

Personally, I see truncated bookmarks more as a benefit... do you really need or want a long
bookmark name. I would rather keeping shorter concise bookmark names for my tool bar... I don't want
my screen space wasted (a la the finder)! I also make use of folders in my bookmark tool bar.

But per your request... see/vote for bug 66669
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66669

Oh and not every browser can/does show the FULL bookmark name... Safari for instance would truncate
"Some very long yet subjective bookmark name link" to something like " Some very... link"

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