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msjorda@gmail.com - 17 Oct 2006 03:00 GMT
I've read the other threads posted about sign-in problems but I'm
having a problem not listed there.

I am running OS 10.4.8 and Messenger 6.0.1. I deleted the Messenger
cache files, restarted the computer, and restarted my DSL modem, and
nothing is helping me with my problem.

I am able to sign-in on Messenger without any problems when using my
@hotmail.com email address, but when I try to sign on with my
@yahoo.com address it tries for a couple minutes then a window pops up
saying "Sign in to Microsoft Messenger failed because the service is
not available or you may not be connected to the internet."

After trying all those other things to remedy this, I thought it may be
a problem with this whole transition to Windows Live, so I went into my
Live Settings and changed the password for my @yahoo.com email address.
Still nothing.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Rebecca Harriss [MSFT] - 17 Oct 2006 03:08 GMT
On 10/16/06 10:00 PM, in article
1161050443.144205.105230@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, "msjorda@gmail.com"

> I've read the other threads posted about sign-in problems but I'm
> having a problem not listed there.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Hi,

Just to confirm, is your yahoo.com a passportized account?

Thanks,
Rebecca

Rebecca Harriss
Microsoft Corporation
Macintosh Business Unit, SDET

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msjorda@gmail.com - 17 Oct 2006 05:37 GMT
Haha... passportized. I like that.

Yes it is, I've been using this Yahoo email with Messenger daily for
more than 2 years, and then today this just started happening. Also to
update, I've been trying to log on to the Messenger network with those
same two email addresses using both aMSN and Mercury Messenger. Again,
my Hotmail address works with both, and my Yahoo one does not.
When connection fails with Mercury Messenger, a dialogue box opens up
saying:
"Mercury was unable to sign you in because the connection with the MSN
server (207.46.111.30:1863) could not be established."

I know this isn't a thread for those alternate MSN programs, but I
thought I'd just make it clear that my Hotmail address works on all 3,
whereas my Yahoo address won't seem to work at all.
Rebecca Harriss [MSFT] - 17 Oct 2006 15:18 GMT
On 10/17/06 12:37 AM, in article
1161059869.848233.199070@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com, "msjorda@gmail.com"

> Haha... passportized. I like that.
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> thought I'd just make it clear that my Hotmail address works on all 3,
> whereas my Yahoo address won't seem to work at all.

Can you please try again today and see if your yahoo passport account works?
There were server isssues that started last week, that caused many accounts
to be considered invalid for a period of time. It is my understanding that
this issue has been resolved, but it is possible that your issue is
something different.

Thanks,
Rebecca
Rebecca Harriss
Microsoft Corporation
Macintosh Business Unit, SDET

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batfive - 17 Oct 2006 19:24 GMT
> On 10/17/06 12:37 AM, in article
> 1161059869.848233.199070@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com, "msjorda@gmail.com"
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> this issue has been resolved, but it is possible that your issue is
> something different.

I've have the same problem from last night. A @msn.com passport can't
log in with MS Messenger 6.0.1, with another account (@msn.com) I can
log in.
The error is "was unable to sign you in because the connection with the
MSN server could not be established."
I know for sure it's not only a problem of your application (I tried
with msn 6, mercury, webmessenger), but I'd like to know if these
problems on server are resolved. It's the second time on this account
can't access to msn network :-( maybe in less then a month.

Thanks and sorry for any mistake, english is not my language.

Best regards, Domenico.
agaspard@gmail.com - 17 Oct 2006 20:10 GMT
I am experiencing the same issue. Cannot sign in using a .mac account
that has been passportized for use under the microsoft passport. I have
been using it for the last 3 years without any issues.

It is a server side related issue, since I am able to sign with other
accounts (hotmail based). This problem started this morning.

I have already deleted cache files, restarted, etc...etc..etc.. and
nothing happens. I guess we will have to wait for microsoft to resolve
the issue.

If anyone knows anything else, please post.

AG.-
Mac Developer
Rebecca Harriss [MSFT] - 24 Oct 2006 11:37 GMT
On 10/17/06 3:10 PM, in article
1161112201.728945.34240@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com, "agaspard@gmail.com"

> I am experiencing the same issue. Cannot sign in using a .mac account
> that has been passportized for use under the microsoft passport. I have
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> AG.-
> Mac Developer

Hi,

Are you able to sign-in now with your .mac account?

If not, I need to get some logs.

I need to gather some logs from your sign-in to further investigate. If you
could do the following, that would be great.

1) Open System Preferences and choose the Network item.  In the Show
selector choose Network Status; you should see a list of network interfaces
- the current network adapter in use will have a green dot to the left of
its name.  If you see more than one adapter with a green dot then you will
have to figure out which one is the adapter connected to the internet. The
description text for the network adapter should show its IP address (looks
something like 182.168.0.14) - jot this IP address down as you will need it
later.  If the description text does not contain the IP address then you
should double click on the network interface to open it up.  Once you are
examining this network interface choose the TCP/IP tab and jot down the IP
address.

2) Using the Network Utility (found at /Applications/Utilities/Network
Utility.app) select the Info tab and cycle through the Network Interfaces
selector looking for one whose IP address matches the IP address that you
found in step 1.  When you have found the matching network adaptor you will
need to note the Unix network interface name shown in the selector;
typically something like fw0, en0 or en1.

IMPORTANT NOTE:  Before proceeding any further make sure to close down any
applications that access the network.  These include Web browsers, Email
programs, Chat programs, etc.  This will help keep your private data private
as well as reduce the amount of noise (or non-applicable data) in the
network capture.

3) Open the terminal application found at
/Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app

4) Type the following line into the Terminal application making sure to
substitute the XXX with your active network adapter's name (found in step
2).  Once the proper network name is substituted for the XXX placeholder hit
the enter/return key to start the network capture.  This will start the
network capture and dump the output to a file named NetworkCapture.txt on
your desktop.

   sudo tcpdump -i XXX -s 10000 -W ip proto TCP >
~/Desktop/NetworkCapture.txt
   
IMPORTANT NOTE:  Once you have entered the above line and hit enter you will
be asked for your password; your Mac OS X login password is required to run
the tcpdump tool (via the sudo command).  Your account must also be able to
administer the computer in order for the sudo command to work for you.

5) Attempt to login with Messenger

6) Click on the Terminal window to activate it.  Press and hold the control
key and press the c key - this will stop the network capture.  You should
see a file named NetworkCapture.txt on your desktop; you should send this
file to harrissrebecca@hotmail.com.

Thanks,
Rebecca
Rebecca Harriss
Microsoft Corporation
Macintosh Business Unit, SDET

This posting is provided ³AS IS² with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Rebecca Harriss [MSFT] - 24 Oct 2006 11:36 GMT
On 10/17/06 2:24 PM, in article
1161109472.957435.165090@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com, "batfive"

>> On 10/17/06 12:37 AM, in article
>> 1161059869.848233.199070@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com, "msjorda@gmail.com"
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Best regards, Domenico.

Hi Domenico,

Are you able to sign-in now?

Thanks,
Rebecca
Rebecca Harriss
Microsoft Corporation
Macintosh Business Unit, SDET

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msjorda@gmail.com - 17 Oct 2006 20:05 GMT
Still won't work today.
askxxx@yahoo.com - 17 Oct 2006 20:17 GMT
yes, friends, still not working.

but i have 2 "passportized" yahoo ids.
one of them, it's ok, and working normally.
the other, when i try to sign in (changing with differente account),
send me that terrible message "... because the service is temporarily
unavailable".

why?
one yahoo works, the other yahoo don't.
at(in) the same computer...

sorry for my horrible english. dropping from brazil.
sup_cjv - 17 Oct 2006 21:43 GMT
Hi,

I have an hotmail account, same problem.  It simply wont log in
anymore, from anyplace, not only my primary machine.  I get the message
"system is temporarily unavailble".  Other people have no problem
accessing their accounts from the same machines.  This has been going
on for the past 24 hours or so.

> yes, friends, still not working.
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> sorry for my horrible english. dropping from brazil.
Rebecca Harriss [MSFT] - 24 Oct 2006 11:38 GMT
On 10/17/06 3:17 PM, in article
1161112648.942056.254580@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, "askxxx@yahoo.com"

> yes, friends, still not working.
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> sorry for my horrible english. dropping from brazil.

Hi,

Are you able to sign-in now? If not, please continue reading.

I need to gather some logs from your sign-in to further investigate. If you
could do the following, that would be great.

1) Open System Preferences and choose the Network item.  In the Show
selector choose Network Status; you should see a list of network interfaces
- the current network adapter in use will have a green dot to the left of
its name.  If you see more than one adapter with a green dot then you will
have to figure out which one is the adapter connected to the internet. The
description text for the network adapter should show its IP address (looks
something like 182.168.0.14) - jot this IP address down as you will need it
later.  If the description text does not contain the IP address then you
should double click on the network interface to open it up.  Once you are
examining this network interface choose the TCP/IP tab and jot down the IP
address.

2) Using the Network Utility (found at /Applications/Utilities/Network
Utility.app) select the Info tab and cycle through the Network Interfaces
selector looking for one whose IP address matches the IP address that you
found in step 1.  When you have found the matching network adaptor you will
need to note the Unix network interface name shown in the selector;
typically something like fw0, en0 or en1.

IMPORTANT NOTE:  Before proceeding any further make sure to close down any
applications that access the network.  These include Web browsers, Email
programs, Chat programs, etc.  This will help keep your private data private
as well as reduce the amount of noise (or non-applicable data) in the
network capture.

3) Open the terminal application found at
/Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app

4) Type the following line into the Terminal application making sure to
substitute the XXX with your active network adapter's name (found in step
2).  Once the proper network name is substituted for the XXX placeholder hit
the enter/return key to start the network capture.  This will start the
network capture and dump the output to a file named NetworkCapture.txt on
your desktop.

   sudo tcpdump -i XXX -s 10000 -W ip proto TCP >
~/Desktop/NetworkCapture.txt
   
IMPORTANT NOTE:  Once you have entered the above line and hit enter you will
be asked for your password; your Mac OS X login password is required to run
the tcpdump tool (via the sudo command).  Your account must also be able to
administer the computer in order for the sudo command to work for you.

5) Attempt to login with Messenger

6) Click on the Terminal window to activate it.  Press and hold the control
key and press the c key - this will stop the network capture.  You should
see a file named NetworkCapture.txt on your desktop; you should send this
file to harrissrebecca@hotmail.com.

Thanks,
Rebecca
Rebecca Harriss
Microsoft Corporation
Macintosh Business Unit, SDET

This posting is provided ³AS IS² with no warranties, and confers no rights.
msjorda@gmail.com - 18 Oct 2006 01:09 GMT
I just tried signing on and voilà, it's working again.

I guess we'll never know what was wrong, hopefully it doesn't happen
again.
Rebecca Harriss [MSFT] - 18 Oct 2006 01:50 GMT
On 10/17/06 8:09 PM, in article
1161130159.895658.167200@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com, "msjorda@gmail.com"

> I just tried signing on and voilà, it's working again.
>
> I guess we'll never know what was wrong, hopefully it doesn't happen
> again.

Thanks for reporting back. There were server issues with select servers and
your account was likely on one of them. Most server issues, but not all have
been resolved.

Thanks,
Rebecca

Rebecca Harriss
Microsoft Corporation
Macintosh Business Unit, SDET

This posting is provided ³AS IS² with no warranties, and confers no rights.
blankit - 17 Oct 2006 17:08 GMT
I'm having a similar problem.  My main hotmail.com email address won't
sign into msn. Started happening yesterday (16th) at noon.  I've done
all troubleshooting solutions with no luck, including checking the
passport crudentials of the address. All check out.

Silly thing is, my other hotmial.com address work with msn messenger on
my computer.

Any ideas?

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Rebecca Harriss [MSFT] - 24 Oct 2006 11:34 GMT
On 10/17/06 12:08 PM, in article blankit.2fuk04@mail.mcse.ms, "blankit"

> I'm having a similar problem.  My main hotmail.com email address won't
> sign into msn. Started happening yesterday (16th) at noon.  I've done
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> View this thread: http://www.mcse.ms/message2560008.html
>  
Hi,

Are you able to sign-in now?

Thanks,
Rebecca
Rebecca Harriss
Microsoft Corporation
Macintosh Business Unit, SDET

This posting is provided ³AS IS² with no warranties, and confers no rights.
 
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