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Mac Forum / Applications / Other MS Products / June 2006PC user "newbie MAC" question
My in-laws use MACs, I use PCs. Would I be correct in assuming that they can use MAC Messenger to place video calls to me using PC messenger, and vice versa? Told you it was a real "newbie" question! Paul DS.  SignaturePlease remove the "x-" if replying to sender. On 3/30/05 3:35 AM, in article 424a64b4$0$296$ed9e5944@reading.news.pipex.net, "Paul D.Smith" <paul_d_smith@x-hotmail.com> wrote: > My in-laws use MACs, I use PCs. Would I be correct in assuming that they > can use MAC Messenger to place video calls to me using PC messenger, and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Paul DS. No, you would not! Mac messenger does not support video. You can send text messages fine, but not audio or video. SignatureBob Greenblatt [MVP], Macintosh bobgreenblattATmsnDOTcom > On 3/30/05 3:35 AM, in article > 424a64b4$0$296$ed9e5944@reading.news.pipex.net, "Paul D.Smith" [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > No, you would not! Mac messenger does not support video. You can send text > messages fine, but not audio or video. Good job I asked then! Is there a MAC "Messenger" like product that _can_ do audio/video calling to MSN Messenger then? Cheers, Paul DS. On 3/30/05 9:13 AM, in article 424ab41c$0$292$ed9e5944@reading.news.pipex.net, "Paul D.Smith" <paul_d_smith@x-hotmail.com> wrote: >> On 3/30/05 3:35 AM, in article >> 424a64b4$0$296$ed9e5944@reading.news.pipex.net, "Paul D.Smith" [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Cheers, > Paul DS. Don't think so. Yahoo has something that may work on both platforms. SignatureBob Greenblatt [MVP], Macintosh bobgreenblattATmsnDOTcom > Good job I asked then! Is there a MAC "Messenger" like product that _can_ > do audio/video calling to MSN Messenger then? The latest AIM (AOL Instant Messenger) for Windows can do a/v connections with iChat AV, a Mac client for AIM. To use iChat AV the Mac must be running Mac OS X 10.3 Panther. hello, im trying to install Microsoft Office 2004 on to my Imac g5. did an uninstall first, the reset disck permissions then empty the trasch then restart.... after this starting up MO2004 (it does not ask serialnr??) and it quits when I try to save a file. again and again it drives me crasy! -- celcrabeels ------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.mcse.ms ------------------------------------------------------------------------ View this thread: http://www.mcse.ms/message1607033.html celcrabeels Re: Re: PC user "newbie MAC" question hello,Bob im trying to install Microsoft Office 2004 on to my Imac g5. did an uninstal l first, the reset disck permissions then empty the trasch then restart.. after this starting up MO2004 (it does not ask serialnr??) and it quits when I try to save a file. again and again it drives me crasy! -- celcrabeels ------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.mcse.ms ------------------------------------------------------------------------ View this thread: http://www.mcse.ms/message1607033.html I'm also a new Mac OS X user and I will suggest you download an app called APPZAPPER. It will let you try it for a few days before you decide to purchase it if your going to keep it. The install/uninstall process in OS X is a bit different than Win XP but it works fine if you can get used to it. I have enough confidence in this third party app to reply to your post in hopes of finding you a solution. http://appzapper.com/ http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/28764 On 6/15/06 4:57 PM, in article celcrabeels.29gxc3@mail.mcse.ms, > celcrabeels > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > View this thread: http://www.mcse.ms/message1607033.html > > *On 3/30/05 3:35 AM, in article > 424a64b4$0$296$ed9e5944@reading.news.pipex.net, "Paul D.Smith" [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Bob Greenblatt [MVP], Macintosh > bobgreenblattATmsnDOTcom * -- celcrabeels ------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.mcse.ms ------------------------------------------------------------------------ View this thread: http://www.mcse.ms/message1607033.html hello,again im trying to install Microsoft Office 2004 on to my Imac g5. did an uninstal first, then reset disck permissions then empty the trasch then restart. after this starting up MO2004 (it does not ask serialnr?) and it quits when I try to save a file. -- celcrabeels ------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.mcse.ms ------------------------------------------------------------------------ View this thread: http://www.mcse.ms/message1607033.html Thanks Chris I did download APPZAPPER. It does what it says, but the problem is still here. I'm looking at it and will let you how it goes. cheers, cel -- celcrabeels ------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.mcse.ms ------------------------------------------------------------------------ View this thread: http://www.mcse.ms/message1607033.html You realize that your being brain washed by pc stupidity! the mac has a well known application environment in UNIX. the best chat client application is called AdiumX. it runs 8 clients: AIM JABBER MSN YAHOO .Mac Gadu-Gadu ICQ Lotus Sametime Novell Groupwise Rendezvous Yahoo! Japan Napster Zephyr all run contained this one adiumX application and it runs circles around msn....... it loads all of msn's capabilities. Microsoft does not have or serve an open standard for video or directX so. cadd applications and video are proprietary on the pc. therefore... outside the pc platform your in an open environment like SGI Irix, IBM, Mac, Unix or linux. Microsoft has contained this status in order to keep its loyal pc clone user base. Many users out there also know that microsoft did not invent video, audio or the web..... they just want you to pay them to have it contained on your pc system. Go buy a mac and install windows for pc.... and that argument you pc idiots hold is mute. Microsoft is both anti-competitve and unsupportive of other computing environments..... for these two reasons alone..... it should be stopped for hampering a growing industry and thus made to be an opebn source provider like the rest are... closed source computing.. is not a public thing. > My in-laws use MACs, I use PCs. Would I be correct in assuming that they > can use MAC Messenger to place video calls to me using PC messenger, and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Paul DS. [snip] Sigh. The PC vs MAC argument will run as long as Microsoft props up Apple as a competitor to avoid US anti-trust lawsuits. And yes, I agree that the MAC is a very nice package so don't take my comments as an anti-MAC shot. Bottom line though is that I get my PCs free typically (cast-offs from people who upgrade - I don't need speed!) and since I use PCs at work, I need all the PC specific software for the rare occasions that I take work home. Getting back to my original question though, you gave a list of MAC based video/audio software, for which thanks. Are there PC versions of these because the subtext of my original question was "I have PCs, my in-laws have MACs, we want to make video calls between them". At the moment, the top candidate seems to be Yahoo Messenger since MSN doesn't support video/audio on MACs. Also, Yahoo seems have a much improved video facility over other similar products. Finally, actually the MS products are relatively "open" as they use H.323 (NetMeeting), SIP (Messenger) and RTP (both). This is fairly typical of the conference/phone-like portion of MS which is unusually good at keeping "open". I suspect this is because they want to be able to inter-operate with Cisco and other big players in the VoIP market who have adopted open standards for their newer hardware. Regards, Paul DS. Hey Paul, There is a MSN Messenger clone (for all platforms, I believe) currently in development called Mercury Messenger which has preliminary webcam support. I haven't tested it, but it's still in development. You can check it out here: http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/14970 Yahoo! Messenger has video, but no audio chat. So it's useless to you. The latest AOL Messenger for PC will do audio/video chat with iChat AV on the Mac. However, you can purchase Trillian Pro 3 for the PC which supports audio/video chat with iChat AV (via the AIM protocol) but it allows you to access your MSN account within the same interface. It's worth checking out. Apple is due to release a major (paid) upgrade to their operating system called "Tiger" (version 10.4) within a month. The current OS that comes installed on Macs is "Panther (version 10.3.x). Details are sparse, but iChat is supposed to come with support for more chat protocols. Hopefully, there'll be more solutions for PC-to-Mac video-conferencing. You could also try combining audio chat via Skype and video chat via Yahoo messenger or webcame software like Evo-Cam. I hope this helps. Cheers, Bigbluejerk Here's a comprehensive page about chatting with PC users using AIM and iChat AV: http://www.aptr36.dsl.pipex.com/page12.html |
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