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Mac Forum / General / General / May 2008Apple mail in an Apple/Windows network
Our primary server is a Windows machine. If that server is down, mail destined for it from most sources gets queued until the server is back up. Mail from the Apple server gets dropped somewhere. It never gets delivered. This mail is generated by calendar. We know cron is running calendar because it puts an error message in system.log (10.5.2 server). When mail from the Apple works properly it is picked up by Exchange Server and is available in Outlook on our Windows workstations. Does anybody know if it is the Apple computer or the network that is doing this, and what can be done? We have two sets of consultants, one for Windows and one for Apple and we need to know who has to correct the problem. However, the Apple computer is the only mail source we are aware of that has problems.  SignatureRobert B. Peirce, Venetia, PA 724-941-6883 bob AT peirce-family.com [Mac] rbp AT cooksonpeirce.com [Office] > Our primary server is a Windows machine. If that server is down, mail > destined for it from most sources gets queued until the server is back [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > problem. However, the Apple computer is the only mail source we are > aware of that has problems. How is mail coming "from" the Apple server? Is it running an MTA (Which one? How is it configured? What do its logs say?) or is it submitting mail direct to the Windows box? Cheers, Chris > How is mail coming "from" the Apple server? Is it running an MTA (Which > one? How is it configured? What do its logs say?) or is it submitting > mail direct to the Windows box? I don't know. As JollyRoger pointed out I am way over my head on this. I guess I thought this was pretty standard stuff. We have a Windows network but I don't really know how it is configured, except it includes a Terminal Server, which is how we connect from our workstations or over RDC. We added an Appleserver running 10.5.2 server and it was hooked up using whatever is provided in 10.5.2. Somehow it sends mail to the exchange server on the Windows server. If this is not done in some standard way, then I really don't know what to say. SignatureRobert B. Peirce, Venetia, PA 724-941-6883 bob AT peirce-family.com [Mac] rbp AT cooksonpeirce.com [Office] > > How is mail coming "from" the Apple server? Is it running an MTA (Which > > one? How is it configured? What do its logs say?) or is it submitting > > mail direct to the Windows box? > > I don't know. As JollyRoger pointed out I am way over my head on this. > I guess I thought this was pretty standard stuff. "Windows" and "standard" rarely belong in the same sentence together! > We have a Windows network but I don't really know how it is configured, > except it includes a Terminal Server, which is how we connect from our > workstations or over RDC. Without knowing how your Windows mail services are configured, it'll be really hard to answer your question, I'm afraid. > We added an Appleserver running 10.5.2 server Please stop calling it an "Appleserver" - you are driving me nuts! ; ) It's an "Xserve" (Apple's rack-mounted server), or just a "Mac" (various different models of Apple's desktop computers) running Mac OS X Server. > and it was hooked up using whatever is provided in 10.5.2. Somehow it > sends mail to the exchange server on the Windows server. If this is not > done in some standard way, then I really don't know what to say. It's definitely done in a standard way on the Mac side. SignaturePlease send all responses to the relevant news group. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. I do not read posts from Google Groups. Use a real news reader if you want me to see your posts. JR > > We added an Appleserver running 10.5.2 server > > Please stop calling it an "Appleserver" - you are driving me nuts! ; ) > It's an "Xserve" (Apple's rack-mounted server), or just a "Mac" (various > different models of Apple's desktop computers) running Mac OS X Server. Sorry. It is named appleserver on the network, but it is really just a desktop Mac of recent vintage with an Intel chip running 10.5.2 server. SignatureRobert B. Peirce, Venetia, PA 724-941-6883 bob AT peirce-family.com [Mac] rbp AT cooksonpeirce.com [Office] > Our primary server is a Windows machine. If that server is down, mail > destined for it from most sources gets queued until the server is back > up. What kind of Windows machine? What OS is it running, NT Server, 2000 Server, Server 2003, Server 2008, something else? What mail server is it running, Exchange or something else? > Mail from the Apple server gets dropped somewhere. It never gets > delivered. This mail is generated by calendar. We know cron is running > calendar because it puts an error message in system.log (10.5.2 server). What OS is the Apple server running, AppleShare, AppleShare IT, OS X Server and if so what version, something else? What calendaring software is running? Is the Apple server on the same subnet as the Windows server? What mail server software is on the Apple server, and how is it configured, and is it actually running? > When mail from the Apple works properly it is picked up by Exchange > Server and is available in Outlook on our Windows workstations. Okay, so we have Exchange Server on the WinBox. I thought so. How is the Apple server set up? > Does anybody know if it is the Apple computer or the network that is > doing this, and what can be done? We have two sets of consultants, one > for Windows and one for Apple and we need to know who has to correct the > problem. However, the Apple computer is the only mail source we are > aware of that has problems. It could be either or both. Need more info. Signatureemail to oshea dot j dot j at gmail dot com. > > Our primary server is a Windows machine. If that server is down, mail > > destined for it from most sources gets queued until the server is back [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Server 2003, Server 2008, something else? What mail server is it running, > Exchange or something else? I am almost positive it is 2003. I know our terminal server runs 2003 and I assume the mainserver is the same. However, I guess it could be 2000. I know it isn't NT or 2008. > > Mail from the Apple server gets dropped somewhere. It never gets > > delivered. This mail is generated by calendar. We know cron is running > > calendar because it puts an error message in system.log (10.5.2 server). > > What OS is the Apple server running, AppleShare, AppleShare IT, OS X Server > and if so what version, something else? What calendaring software is running? 10.5.2 server. Everything, including calendar, is standard. The only third party software of which I am aware is SuperDuper! > Is the Apple server on the same subnet as the Windows server? What mail > server software is on the Apple server, and how is it configured, and is it > actually running? I am pretty sure it is the same sub-net. All our servers have IPs of 10.0.0.x. Maybe I don't understand the question. We are using the standard mail program, but I don't know how it is configured. When mainserver is up, mail gets forwarded to exchange server on mainserver, but I don't know exactly how. It does work when mainserver is up. > > When mail from the Apple works properly it is picked up by Exchange > > Server and is available in Outlook on our Windows workstations. > > Okay, so we have Exchange Server on the WinBox. I thought so. How is the > Apple server set up? I don't know. > > Does anybody know if it is the Apple computer or the network that is > > doing this, and what can be done? We have two sets of consultants, one [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > It could be either or both. Need more info. Okay. Back to square one. I was afraid of that. SignatureRobert B. Peirce, Venetia, PA 724-941-6883 bob AT peirce-family.com [Mac] rbp AT cooksonpeirce.com [Office] > We are using the standard mail program, but I don't know how it is > configured. When mainserver is up, mail gets forwarded to exchange > server on mainserver, but I don't know exactly how. It does work when > mainserver is up. I think you're talking about an MTA, not just a "mail program". I think you need to ask whoever is responsible for your Mac server how postfix (the MTA which Apple includes) is set up. Cheers, Chris > > We are using the standard mail program, but I don't know how it is > > configured. When mainserver is up, mail gets forwarded to exchange [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Chris Thanks. Will do. SignatureRobert B. Peirce, Venetia, PA 724-941-6883 bob AT peirce-family.com [Mac] rbp AT cooksonpeirce.com [Office] > Our primary server is a Windows machine. If that server is down, mail > destined for it from most sources gets queued until the server is back [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > problem. However, the Apple computer is the only mail source we are > aware of that has problems. Man... You are so obviously in way over your head! Do you not have someone more experienced with mail servers that can help you?? SignaturePlease send all responses to the relevant news group. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. I do not read posts from Google Groups. Use a real news reader if you want me to see your posts. JR > Man... You are so obviously in way over your head! Do you not have > someone more experienced with mail servers that can help you?? Yes, this is way over my head. My background is exclusively with stand-alone computers. I don't pretend to understand networks. I am happy I was able to get this computer talking to my DSL line over WiFi, and that I am told is pretty basic. Unfortunately, there are two people, one for Windows and one for Apple. I am trying to figure out who to call to avoid the it isn't my problem problem. I kind of think it is somehow related to the Apple or to how the Apple fits into the network, but I really don't know. SignatureRobert B. Peirce, Venetia, PA 724-941-6883 bob AT peirce-family.com [Mac] rbp AT cooksonpeirce.com [Office] |
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