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Microsoft are bringing back VBA for Office!!!1

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London.Embankment@googlemail.com - 19 May 2008 11:02 GMT
Did you hear?

They took it away in favour of Applescript (which was silly). When is
it coming back?
Gregory Weston - 19 May 2008 13:08 GMT
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<9fc6a418-478e-4b67-b029-d7120ce4410e@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,

> Did you hear?
>
> They took it away in favour of Applescript (which was silly). When is
> it coming back?

The next major release. Years from now. They listen to their customers.
Sort of. Would have been better, of course, if they had listened two
years ago when their customers told them that dropping VBA was going to
be a bad idea.

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Florian Zschocke - 19 May 2008 13:33 GMT
Gregory Weston <uce@splook.com> schrieb:

> In article
> <9fc6a418-478e-4b67-b029-d7120ce4410e@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
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> years ago when their customers told them that dropping VBA was going to
> be a bad idea.

Bringing it back in the way it was working before is also a bad idea.
We are on intel now. If you need this stuff, the better choice is to use
Parallels or BootCamp.
With intel it might be easier to port VBA so that it will work better. From
the design, VBA has a deep integration with the Windows-OS and every new
Mac-OS version has to overcome this lack of system integration. I guess
that it will never be as good as the original, so that the people will
continue using Parallels.

Florian
Howard Brazee - 19 May 2008 14:56 GMT
>Did you hear?
>
>They took it away in favour of Applescript (which was silly). When is
>it coming back?

Yes, I did hear.   I expect I will buy it.

When I bought my Mac, I looked at Office, but figured most of my
spreadsheets would be broken anyway - they use Visual Basic.

So I went Apple instead.   But I don't want one spreadsheet or word
document at home and another one pretty similar at work - I want them
to be identical and synchronized both places.   So far, all I've used
iWork for is to read my documents from work.  Whenever I open one, it
tells me that it couldn't get everything and asks if I want to save
the changed document.

No, I don't want two different documents, I want to synchronize
documents so that I am always updating the latest.

I wasted my money with iWork when I need the same document at work.
Elliott Roper - 19 May 2008 15:19 GMT
> >Did you hear?
> >
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>
> I wasted my money with iWork when I need the same document at work.

In that case, you should get a copy of the previous Office 2004 to tide
you over for the two or three year wait.

VBA in Office 2004 is not bug for bug compatible with the latest Office
2007 VBA on the dark side, not least because Office 2004 isn't either,
but it does approximate a usable subset for most users.

In one respect iWork is useful. Pages does a competent job of
translating .docx files back to .doc for your Office 2004, which
doesn't.

Now that I'm retired enough not to worry about Windows using clients, I
have dumped Office for iWork, keeping my old Office 2004 lying about
just in case. I keep my copy of Office 2008 neatly shrinkwrapped on a
high shelf in the hope that a service pack will elevate it to
usability.

In most respects iWork is Office 2008 done right. (aka dumbed down but
elegant enough) I'm using InDesign CS3 and LaTeX for professional work,
of which i do little lately.

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Howard Brazee - 19 May 2008 15:51 GMT
>> I wasted my money with iWork when I need the same document at work.
>
>In that case, you should get a copy of the previous Office 2004 to tide
>you over for the two or three year wait.

...

>Now that I'm retired enough not to worry about Windows using clients, I
>have dumped Office for iWork, keeping my old Office 2004 lying about
>just in case. I keep my copy of Office 2008 neatly shrinkwrapped on a
>high shelf in the hope that a service pack will elevate it to
>usability.

Actually, that might be what happens to me, depending on how long it
takes for the next Office to come out.   I do have Office 2003 in
Parallels, but that's a pain, especially since I haven't yet installed
it on my clean parallels, nor have I yet synchronized the documents.
Also, I'm not using Time Machine to back up my regular VM file (just
the backups I create occasionally).
Florian Zschocke - 20 May 2008 10:31 GMT
Howard Brazee <howard@brazee.net> schrieb:


> Actually, that might be what happens to me, depending on how long it
> takes for the next Office to come out.   I do have Office 2003 in
> Parallels, but that's a pain, especially since I haven't yet installed
> it on my clean parallels, nor have I yet synchronized the documents.
> Also, I'm not using Time Machine to back up my regular VM file (just
> the backups I create occasionally).

I use ntbackup to create full and differential backup files on a network
share. I only backup "My Documents" this way. That is done in some
minutes. From there you can use TimeMachine or any other backup system.
Additional, I have made a copy of the original Parallels system disk.

Florian
Howard Brazee - 20 May 2008 15:36 GMT
>I use ntbackup to create full and differential backup files on a network
>share. I only backup "My Documents" this way. That is done in some
>minutes. From there you can use TimeMachine or any other backup system.
>Additional, I have made a copy of the original Parallels system disk.

How and where do you get this backup out to where TimeMachine finds
it?     (I never used it and am Googling it now)
Florian Zschocke - 20 May 2008 17:56 GMT
Howard Brazee <howard@brazee.net> schrieb:


>>I use ntbackup to create full and differential backup files on a network
>>share. I only backup "My Documents" this way. That is done in some
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> How and where do you get this backup out to where TimeMachine finds
> it?     (I never used it and am Googling it now)

I guess I don't understand your question. I have a folder win-backup on my
osx-home folder. I did connect my home folder to parallels. It is available
in parallels under "Parallels Shared Folders" and also under "Network
Places". In my win-backup folder I have created my weekly backup-files. I
have one file, "Freitag.bkf" that is a full backup from "My Documents" in
parallels. Monday.bkf, Thursday.bkf,e.t.c are differential backups. The
files are replaced once a week.

Florian
 
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