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Mac Forum / General / General / August 2007Windows sharing
I've been trying to make my Mac visible to my Windows machine. I can mount Windows shared directories on my Mac, but so far have failed at the reverse. I simplified my computer name from "Patrica Brazee's Mac" to "iMacPat", and edited the subnet name to the same name (which the Mac changed to iMacPat.local). Maybe I'm missing the "short name" setting somewhere. I have the following checked: Personal File Sharing Windows Sharing Personal Web Sharing Printer Sharing I looked up her IP address, pretend it is 192.111.1.111. I went to my Howard-1 Windows XP machine, selected START, RUN, and entered 192.111.1.111\iMacPat I got a window saying: Connecting to 192.111.1.111 User name: Password: I filled in iMacPat as the User name. I put in my wife's administrator password, as it is the only Mac password I know. The window now says: Connecting to 192.111.1.111 User name: HOWARD-1\iMacPat Password: ********** This is where I get stuck. What have I missed? What do I need to do next? > The window now says: > Connecting to 192.111.1.111 [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > This is where I get stuck. What have I missed? What do I need to > do next? Hit the Enter key? I'm not sure what's "stuck."  SignatureW. Oates >> The window now says: >> Connecting to 192.111.1.111 [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Hit the Enter key? I'm not sure what's "stuck." I hit the Enter button, but it doesn't do what I want. (I forgot the message - probably a "not found" message). > I've been trying to make my Mac visible to my Windows machine. I can > mount Windows shared directories on my Mac, but so far have failed at [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > changed to iMacPat.local). Maybe I'm missing the "short name" > setting somewhere. [...] > I looked up her IP address, pretend it is 192.111.1.111. > > I went to my Howard-1 Windows XP machine, selected START, RUN, and > entered 192.111.1.111\iMacPat You should type in either the Mac's IP address *OR* its computer name, not both. Windows thinks you're typing "iMacPat" as the name of a directory on the Mac. > I got a window saying: > Connecting to 192.111.1.111 [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I put in my wife's administrator password, as it is the only Mac > password I know. You said iMacPat is the Mac's computer name; why are you typing it as the user name? If you're typing your wife's password, you also have to type in your wife's user name. > The window now says: > Connecting to 192.111.1.111 > User name: HOWARD-1\iMacPat Note that Windows inserted the name of your PC. By default, it expects you to type the name of a user account on your PC. Try typing "iMacPat\Patricia" (assuming your wife's user account on her Mac is named "Patricia"). If you still have problems, I suggest you read "Take Control of Sharing Files in Tiger", particularly the section "Share Files with Samba". It's an ebook in PDF format, only $10. <http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/tiger-sharing.html> >> I've been trying to make my Mac visible to my Windows machine. I can >> mount Windows shared directories on my Mac, but so far have failed at [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >not both. Windows thinks you're typing "iMacPat" as the name of a >directory on the Mac. I will try splitting these up (I found my instructions in http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=54704 ) that said: >Click Start > Run and enter \\192.168.1.2\edesignuk, >replacing the IP address with the IP address of your Mac, >and edesignuk with the short user name of your account >in OS X. It wasn't obvious to me which name is my "short user name". >> I got a window saying: >> Connecting to 192.111.1.111 [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >the user name? If you're typing your wife's password, you also have to >type in your wife's user name. It was my best guess in my ignorance. I'll have to do some more searching to find her user name. (I know she won't know what it is) >> The window now says: >> Connecting to 192.111.1.111 [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >"iMacPat\Patricia" (assuming your wife's user account on her Mac is >named "Patricia"). Will do. That wasn't obvious at all to me. >If you still have problems, I suggest you read "Take Control of Sharing >Files in Tiger", particularly the section "Share Files with Samba". >It's an ebook in PDF format, only $10. ><http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/tiger-sharing.html> I put that link in my bookmarks of Apple products. I'm saving up to buy my Mac Pro, to replace my Windows machine. But my savings doesn't go up fast during golf season. (I give myself an allowance that covers gas, presents, and toys). > >You said iMacPat is the Mac's computer name; why are you typing it as > >the user name? If you're typing your wife's password, you also have to > >type in your wife's user name. > > It was my best guess in my ignorance. I'll have to do some more > searching to find her user name. (I know she won't know what it is) There are a number of places to look: - System preferences --> Accounts or - in the Users folder on the hard drive but the simplest is: her short name will be - the name of her home folder (in the sidebar of any Finder window). Another thing. her accont must be authorized for Windows sharing (in System preferences --> Sharing). SignatureI recommend Macs to my friends, and Windows machines to those whom I don't mind billing by the hour >There are a number of places to look: >- System preferences --> Accounts or [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Another thing. her accont must be authorized for Windows sharing >(in System preferences --> Sharing). It is. I found a few names. Her short name is PatBrazee, her long name is Patricia Brazee, her location is Pat's Mac, her computer name was Patricia Brazee's Mac but now is iMacPat, and her local subnet was Patricia-Brazees-Mac.local but now is iMacPat.local I tried variations of all of these along with her IP address (which is the same as it was yesterday). But now I can't even get the login window, my Windows machine does not find her computer. > I found a few names. Her short name is PatBrazee, her long name is > Patricia Brazee, her location is Pat's Mac, her computer name was [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > the same as it was yesterday). But now I can't even get the login > window, my Windows machine does not find her computer. You gotta love Windows networking... I could probably figure out what's going on if I were sitting there at your PC. But Windows networking is a big pain in the butt, so the thought of talking someone through troubleshooting it in a news group isn't very appetizing I have to admit. But here are some things to check: On the Mac, go into System Preferences > Sharing > Services, then highlight "Windows Sharing" in the services list, and ensure that you have clicked the "Enable Accounts" button on the right side to enable the account for Windows file sharing. Also on the Mac, open /Applications/Utilities.Directory Access. Double-click "SMB/CIFS" in the list. What is the Workgroup set to? You should set it to the same workgroup as your Windows computer (right-click My Computer, select Properties, click Computer Name, and look for "Workgroup". Now restart Windows. On Windows, in an explorer window, type \\192.111.1.111 into the Address bar, then hit Return on the keyboard. You should see a login dialog box. Make sure the Workgroup is correct. The user name should be the short name of the Mac OS X user account. The password should be that user's password. What happens when you try to connect? SignatureApply rot13 to this e-mail address before using it. JR >You gotta love Windows networking... I could probably figure out what's >going on if I were sitting there at your PC. But Windows networking is [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >have clicked the "Enable Accounts" button on the right side to enable >the account for Windows file sharing. I did Windows Sharing a long time ago. I can't find the "Enable Accounts" button though. This screen says "Other computers on your local subnet can access your computer at iMacPat.local." It also says "Other Macintosh users can access your computer at afp://192.111.1.111/ or browse for iMacPat by choosing Network from the Go menu in the Finder." (I change the slashes around - what does afp: mean?) (The TCP/IP number is really different - I'm probably being too paranoid). >Also on the Mac, open /Applications/Utilities.Directory Access. >Double-click "SMB/CIFS" in the list. What is the Workgroup set to? You >should set it to the same workgroup as your Windows computer >(right-click My Computer, select Properties, click Computer Name, and >look for "Workgroup". Both locations have it named "WORKGROUP", although I'm not sure about case. >Now restart Windows. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >What happens when you try to connect? I wait a bit and am told "Network Path was not found". I do not get the logon dialog box anymore. >> On the Mac, go into System Preferences > Sharing > Services, then >> highlight "Windows Sharing" in the services list, and ensure that you [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I did Windows Sharing a long time ago. I can't find the "Enable > Accounts" button though. Well you need it. Without enabling accounts for Windows file sharing, you'll never be able to connect from another machine! Take a look at this screen shot - this is what you should see if you follow my instructions properly: <http://jollyroger.kicks-ass.org/jollyroger/WindowsSharing.png> SignatureApply rot13 to this e-mail address before using it. JR >> I did Windows Sharing a long time ago. I can't find the "Enable >> Accounts" button though. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > <http://jollyroger.kicks-ass.org/jollyroger/WindowsSharing.png> I think I know the problem, I have Personal File Sharing highlighted. (I'm looking at a screen print). When my wife gets off her computer, I will highlight at Windows Sharing. I didn't click on Windows Sharing because it was already checked - it wasn't obvious to me that that would change the rest of the screen. >>> I did Windows Sharing a long time ago. I can't find the "Enable >>> Accounts" button though. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I think I know the problem, I have Personal File Sharing highlighted. > (I'm looking at a screen print). My instructions said to highlight "Windows File Sharing": > On the Mac, go into System Preferences > Sharing > Services, then > highlight "Windows Sharing" in the services list, and ensure that you > have clicked the "Enable Accounts" button on the right side to enable > the account for Windows file sharing. ; ) > When my wife gets off her computer, > I will highlight at Windows Sharing. > > I didn't click on Windows Sharing because it was already checked - it > wasn't obvious to me that that would change the rest of the screen. Attention to detail! *grin* SignatureApply rot13 to this e-mail address before using it. JR >> I think I know the problem, I have Personal File Sharing highlighted. >> (I'm looking at a screen print). > >My instructions said to highlight "Windows File Sharing": Yep, they are precise. And I have learned something from this case - when I write documentation, I should not depend on being precise as being sufficient. Because other users can be as brain dead as myself, I should give a reason as well. e.g. "Highlight Windows Sharing to show "Enable Accounts". Users tend to make assumptions, making an a.s of you and me. Guilty as charged. > what does afp: mean? Apple Filing Protocol: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Filing_Protocol> SignatureApply rot13 to this e-mail address before using it. JR >> Also on the Mac, open /Applications/Utilities.Directory Access. >> Double-click "SMB/CIFS" in the list. What is the Workgroup set to? You [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Both locations have it named "WORKGROUP", although I'm not sure about > case. Case doesn't matter much here. SignatureApply rot13 to this e-mail address before using it. JR >> Now restart Windows. >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I wait a bit and am told "Network Path was not found". You need to enable accounts on your Mac for Windows File Sharing, as I described earlier. > I do not get the logon dialog box anymore. Did you restart Windows like I told you? Windows will cache the username and password you entered last time you tried to connect, and will use that name and password from then on rather than asking again (brilliant Microsoft networking engineers thought storing the name and password even for failed login attempts would save time - pfffft). A restart usually dumps the cache and makes Windows ask again. SignatureApply rot13 to this e-mail address before using it. JR >> I do not get the logon dialog box anymore. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >password even for failed login attempts would save time - pfffft). A >restart usually dumps the cache and makes Windows ask again. I assumed that since I didn't make any changes that wouldn't be necessary. I assumed wrong. >> I wait a bit and am told "Network Path was not found". > >You need to enable accounts on your Mac for Windows File Sharing, as I >described earlier. You described it correctly, I didn't follow directions properly. But I found that the "Patricia Brazee" account was checked on. Everything so far shows that I had set the Mac side correctly, and my problem has been on the Windows side. Rebooting the Windows machine, entering the IP address, and logging in with her short name worked. It wasn't at all obvious how I needed to log on, nor that MS would do its usual job of trying to out-guess me. Thanks for your help. >>> I wait a bit and am told "Network Path was not found". >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Everything so far shows that I had set the Mac side correctly, and my > problem has been on the Windows side. Yeah. Unfortunately my experience is that not only *can* Windows fit that mold, it very often does! > Rebooting the Windows machine, entering the IP address, and logging in > with her short name worked. Great. Glad we got you sorted out then. > It wasn't at all obvious how I needed to log on, nor that MS would do > its usual job of trying to out-guess me. Ain't Windows networking fun? ; ) > Thanks for your help. Any time! : ) SignatureApply rot13 to this e-mail address before using it. JR I connected and can see her computer. Connecting created a new window which I cannot see in either "My Computer" nor "My Network Places". I see some printers, an external modem, and PatBrazee in that window. I closed that window, connected again (and didn't get the signon window), and got that folder again. I clicked the up button and see the workgroup which includes iMacPat(Imacpat) and Pat-parallels. Interesting. Pat-parallels isn't accessible, probably because she's not running Parallels at the moment. |
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