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Internal/External DVD & Vile Player Restriction

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RGB - 27 Jun 2007 18:45 GMT
My G4's internal combo drive went south a long time ago, but I had
already acquired an external Firewire DVD burner, so I've just been
using that.

Unfortunately, there's that loathsome system restriction that won't let
you use DVD Player with an external drive (God that pisses me off). I
can use VLC, but I would really rather use DP. Plus it's a minor pain
having to deal with an external.

Question: if I pop open the external Firewire drive, will I find in
there a "regular" internal ATA-or-IDE-or-whatever drive that I could put
inside the Mac using the existing connectors? If so, will the DVD Player
relent and let me use it *then*?

TIA... RGB
Howard Brazee - 27 Jun 2007 20:18 GMT
>Unfortunately, there's that loathsome system restriction that won't let
>you use DVD Player with an external drive (God that pisses me off). I
>can use VLC, but I would really rather use DP. Plus it's a minor pain
>having to deal with an external.

I'm curious - what is this restriction?    I plugged in a Mad Dog USB
drive to my wife's iPod, played music and wrote a DvD with no problem,
so I assumed it would work with all Macs.
Wayne C. Morris - 27 Jun 2007 21:03 GMT
> >Unfortunately, there's that loathsome system restriction that won't let
> >you use DVD Player with an external drive (God that pisses me off). I
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> drive to my wife's iPod, played music and wrote a DvD with no problem,
> so I assumed it would work with all Macs.

The restriction is that "DVD Player" -- the Apple app which is used to
play movie DVDs on a Mac -- will only work with an internal DVD drive.

Apple's support website blames it on a licensing restriction of the DVD
decoding technology:

<http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=42727>
Howard Brazee - 27 Jun 2007 21:23 GMT
>> I'm curious - what is this restriction?    I plugged in a Mad Dog USB
>> drive to my wife's iPod, played music and wrote a DvD with no problem,
>> so I assumed it would work with all Macs.
>
>The restriction is that "DVD Player" -- the Apple app which is used to
>play movie DVDs on a Mac -- will only work with an internal DVD drive.

I wonder what played that movie in my test.   I'll have to try it
again and see.   I thought I used the remote control.
Francois - 29 Jun 2007 21:15 GMT
>>> Unfortunately, there's that loathsome system restriction that won't let
>>> you use DVD Player with an external drive (God that pisses me off). I
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>
> <http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=42727>
I'm surprised at what Wayne C,Morris writes because I regularly use an
external La Cie DVD reader-writer to watch DVD's from USA ( zone 1 )
alternatively on a G4 and a G5. It happens that I didn't dare to dezone
the G5 internal drive and I discovered the LaCie DVD reader I bought
here in France was zone 1 (The internal drive of my "French" G5 is of
course zone 2). Well these DVD's are read on the external drive by "DVD
Player" exactly as they would be in the internal drive. Where is the
problem ?
Philo D - 29 Jun 2007 21:59 GMT
> > The restriction is that "DVD Player" -- the Apple app which is used to
> > play movie DVDs on a Mac -- will only work with an internal DVD drive.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Player" exactly as they would be in the internal drive. Where is the
> problem ?

Maybe that means LaCie paid the license fee?
Warren Oates - 28 Jun 2007 11:28 GMT
> uestion: if I pop open the external Firewire drive, will I find in
> there a "regular" internal ATA-or-IDE-or-whatever drive that I could put
> inside the Mac using the existing connectors? If so, will the DVD Player
> relent and let me use it *then*?

You can do that. You might find it easier to buy a newer faster internal
drive.
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RGB - 28 Jun 2007 16:29 GMT
> > Question: if I pop open the external Firewire drive, will I find in
> > there a "regular" internal ATA-or-IDE-or-whatever drive that I could put
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> You can do that. You might find it easier to buy a newer faster internal
> drive.

Thanks. And yeah, I'm been thinking of doing just that.
 
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