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Mac Forum / General / General / October 2008Get leukemia FREE with the Mac Pro!
Two french laboratories, Analytica and l’Institut national de l’environnement industriel et des risques (Inéris) say the Mac Pro leaks dangerous fumes, amongst which, benzene, a chemical which affects the bone marrow and may cause leukemia. <http://www.liberation.fr/terre/010133618-mac-pro-le-pepin-toxique-pour-apple> Apple says Steve Job's shares fare well and there can't be a problem. G5 don't leak either. French studies, you know... Take a deep breath! Macs are top quality, that's what you pay big money for. <http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10055928-37.html> > Two french laboratories, Analytica and lInstitut national de lenvironnement > industriel et des risques (Inéris) say the Mac Pro leaks dangerous fumes, [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > <http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10055928-37.html> France, eh? I wonder if they compared the amount of benzene from a Mac to the benzene from Perrier ?? http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=9C0CE7D61F39F9 33A25751C0A966958260 Philo D a écrit : >> Two french laboratories, Analytica and l’Institut national de l’environnement >> industriel et des risques (Inéris) say the Mac Pro leaks dangerous fumes, [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=9C0CE7D61F39F9 > 33A25751C0A966958260 I was really afraid when I read that the water was bottled in 1989!!! but the story dates back to 1990... "William M. Grigg, a spokesman for the Food and Drug Administration, said his agency's Hazard Evaluation Board had collected samples of Perrier and found no immediate risk to the public from the benzene in the water. "At these levels there is no immediate hazard,'' he said. ''The hazard would be that over many years, if you consumed about 16 fluid ounces a day, your lifetime risk of cancer might increase by one in a million, which we consider a negligible risk. You don't have to be concerned if you just had a bottle of Perrier." Still, Perrier has a name -- their water was used as a reference for tests in this story! -- and they recalled the whole stock of bottles. Apple won't do the same. If you die from leukemia ten years from now, who will be able to trace the cause to the Mac Pro? Steve's shares are safe. > Two french laboratories, Analytica and l’Institut national de l’environnement > industriel et des risques (Inéris) say the Mac Pro leaks dangerous fumes, > amongst which, benzene, a chemical which affects the bone marrow and may > cause leukemia. > > <http://www.liberation.fr/terre/010133618-mac-pro-le-pepin-toxique-pour-apple> My ability to read French is very limited. But it appears that one machine was creating a strong odor that irritated eyes, nose and throat. And that this effect was very pronounced after a week of using the Macpro. So this suggests that if your Macpro doesn't reek, you are probably safe. It also appears that one of the labs, Analytica, works closely with Greenpeace. This does not enhance their credibility in my view. I'm not ruling out the possibly that the report is true, but I'm highly skeptical and will need to see systematic replication and analysis from more credible sources before paying much attention to this. Of course, I may be misreading the article entirely. I took second year French in high school (never having taken first year French) and that is about it. Cheers, -j  SignatureJeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ I rarely read top-posted, over-quoting or HTML postings. http://improve-usenet.org/ Jeffrey Goldberg a écrit : >> Two french laboratories, Analytica and l’Institut national de >> l’environnement industriel et des risques (Inéris) say the Mac Pro [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > My ability to read French is very limited. But it appears that one > machine was creating a strong odor The one that was sent for replacement had the same problem. > It also appears that one of the labs, Analytica, works closely with > Greenpeace. This does not enhance their credibility in my view. You think Greenpeace credibility is poor? Anyways, Analytica just made an analysis and, generally, when the results go public, labs don't like to look like fools. The result has also been checked by Inéris. > I'm not ruling out the possibly that the report is true, but I'm highly > skeptical and will need to see systematic replication and analysis from > more credible sources before paying much attention to this. You may be skeptical, I have no problem with this, but we already know that G5s leak. Many Apple computers heat and now... some apparently also release toxic fumes. Maybe Mac users should stop pretending that PCs are cheap stuff, don't you think? > You think Greenpeace credibility is poor? Anyways, Analytica just made an > analysis and, generally, when the results go public, labs don't like to look > like fools. The result has also been checked by In ris. The article, which claims that Mac Pros emit toxic fumes, seems to be missing some crucial information. Of course, toxic fumes are toxic fumes, can't get around that, but I think what's more important, especially in articles like this, is what kind of concentrations are we talking about? I haven't managed to find any kind of information from anywhere about *how much* the machine that they tested pumped out toxic stuff. This is why I'm skeptical, since the tests, associated with Greenpeace, given their past records of doing things, with a "fear- mongering" article that shouts that your machine will give you cancer, but without any kind of information other than "we detected *some* stuff". Of course, since we're talking about computers that you work on for longer whiles at, and the possibility that you might get cancer, and you don't really know if it's true or not, will pretty easily get anybody on their toes, especially since Mac Pros aren't normal "run of the mill" -computers. * Priam [10/03/2008 04:25 UTC]: > Maybe Mac users should stop pretending that PCs are cheap stuff, don't > you think? Or maybe you're in the wrong newsgroup. The advocacy group is down the hall. Signature-=Elden=- http://www.moondog.org > * Priam [10/03/2008 04:25 UTC]: > > Maybe Mac users should stop pretending that PCs are cheap stuff, > > don't you think? > > Or maybe you're in the wrong newsgroup. The advocacy group is down > the hall. Priam is a known troll; the best thing to do with him is to ignore or KF him. SignatureSave America; vote for Obama |
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