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Mac Forum / General / General / September 2008OS 15.5.4 Wireless Question
I have a new MacBook (2.1GHz) that's about 2 weeks old. My daughter has the same model that she bought around June. Both of us have the same intermittent problems with Network "forgetting" the login settings for the router. My router is a Linksys and her's is an Apple. We both use DHCP assignment because we have multiple computers. I also have a Dell (Windows XP), a dual USB iBook, and an Aluminum G4 Powerbook. The Powerbook was my daughter's that she gave to me after she bought her MacBook. We have not seen the "self-assigned IP" (that's what the Airport network setting displays when it can't connect to our respective routers) issue with any of the other computers. It appears to only happen to the MacBooks running 10.5.4 and only on an intermittent basis. I can configure Network settings using DHCP with manual address when the problem happens and all is well. Before I logout, I change IPv4 back to Using DHCP and the next time I login, it works like it's supposed too. I use WPA Personal and it seems that the OS doesn't remember the login and password all of the time. SSID is enabled. I purchased a range extender to "even out" the reception in my house and that works great but when I started having this problem I'd unplug it but that didn't make any difference. My daughter doesn't use a range extender so I'm pretty sure that's not the culprit. My router is set to use the G frequency only because I don't use the iBook anymore. Whenever I've had to login by typing in the router name and password I've checked the box to remember the login info. I must be missing a setting somewhere but I just don't see it. I've been using the Linksys routers for years (enet and wireless) and I've never encountered this issue until the MacBook. It's not really a major problem becuase I can get around it but I can't figure why it's happening intermittently and that makes it a problem(bruised ego). Thanks for any advice, guidance, or just a slap to the head if that's what it takes.  SignatureDeja Moo: I've seen this bullshit before. My address has been anti-spammed. Please reply to: scasse@invalid.net replacing invalid with sonic. > I have a new MacBook (2.1GHz) that's about 2 weeks old. My daughter has > the same model that she bought around June. Both of us have the same [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > Thanks for any advice, guidance, or just a slap to the head if that's > what it takes. I forgot to mention that my daughter lives in another state so our routers are not in close proximity to each other. SignatureDeja Moo: I've seen this bullshit before. My address has been anti-spammed. Please reply to: scasse@invalid.net replacing invalid with sonic. > I have a new MacBook (2.1GHz) that's about 2 weeks old. My daughter has > the same model that she bought around June. Both of us have the same > intermittent problems with Network "forgetting" the login settings for > the router. You say this, but you never state what the actual problem is. What are the symptoms? And what exactly do you mean by "login settings for the router"? Do you mean merely that there is an occasional failure to connect to the wireless network automatically at startup or wake from sleep? I've had this problem with my MacBook ever since installing Leopard, but it isn't chronic; simply turning the AirPort off and on solves it reliably. If, on the other hand, you really do mean that the computer forgets the admin/password for *administering* the router, I must say I don't see why this would be a big issue because it isn't something you should have to do very often. When I need to administer my router, I just type the admin/password and move ahead. m. Signaturematt neuburg, phd = matt@tidbits.com, http://www.tidbits.com/matt/ Leopard - http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/leopard-customizing.html AppleScript - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0596102119 Read TidBITS! It's free and smart. http://www.tidbits.com > > I have a new MacBook (2.1GHz) that's about 2 weeks old. My daughter has > > the same model that she bought around June. Both of us have the same [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > something you should have to do very often. When I need to administer my > router, I just type the admin/password and move ahead. m. The problem is that we can't connect, at all, unless I re-configure the settings. If you've had this problem after installing Leopard then maybe there is a problem that needs to be addressed by Apple. Like I said, it's an inconvenience not a major problem. But when I show folks the beauty of having an Apple computer, it's embarrassing. And I've been an advocate since 1984. SignatureDeja Moo: I've seen this bullshit before. My address has been anti-spammed. Please reply to: scasse@invalid.net replacing invalid with sonic. > I have a new MacBook (2.1GHz) that's about 2 weeks old. My daughter has > the same model that she bought around June. Both of us have the same [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > to only happen to the MacBooks running 10.5.4 and only on an > intermittent basis. That's frequently some kind of security mismatch. Set your router(s) to USE WPA personal (for example) only, see what happens. Avoid WEP, of course, but you probably already know that. If you keep having problems, ask in alt.internet.wireless, mentioning the name and model number of your routers and the OS of your computers. SignatureW. Oates > > I have a new MacBook (2.1GHz) that's about 2 weeks old. My daughter has > > the same model that she bought around June. Both of us have the same [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > ask in alt.internet.wireless, mentioning the name and model number of > your routers and the OS of your computers. All of my computers are set to use WPA personal, as I stated in my original post. My daughter uses WPA 2 personal but has the same intermittant problem. SignatureDeja Moo: I've seen this bullshit before. My address has been anti-spammed. Please reply to: scasse@invalid.net replacing invalid with sonic. > I have a new MacBook (2.1GHz) that's about 2 weeks old. My daughter has > the same model that she bought around June. Both of us have the same > intermittent problems with Network "forgetting" the login settings for > the router. My router is a Linksys and her's is an Apple. Otto- One possibility is that you are both receiving interference from one or more nearby base stations on the same channel. You might be able to make an improvement by changing the channel of your base station. Find a copy of a "stumbler" program such as iStumbler. It will give you an idea of what other wireless base stations are operating in the vicinity of your or her computer. The channels overlap, so choose one that is at least 5 above or below the strongest competing base station. For example, my AirPort is on Channel 1 and two neighbors are on Channel 11. Another weaker neighbor is on Channel 6. Fred > > I have a new MacBook (2.1GHz) that's about 2 weeks old. My daughter has > > the same model that she bought around June. Both of us have the same [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > more nearby base stations on the same channel. You might be able to > make an improvement by changing the channel of your base station. Thanks. I've thought about that and in fact use iStumber to check the neighborhood. The results are inconsistent. That's why I bought a range extender and moved it to the center of my house. > Find a copy of a "stumbler" program such as iStumbler. It will give you > an idea of what other wireless base stations are operating in the > vicinity of your or her computer. Done that. > The channels overlap, so choose one that is at least 5 above or below > the strongest competing base station. For example, my AirPort is on > Channel 1 and two neighbors are on Channel 11. Another weaker neighbor > is on Channel 6. I guess that my neighborhood is becoming more connected "wirelessly" and I'm just starting to see what may become a larger "neighborhood" problem as technology progresses. Thanks. > Fred SignatureDeja Moo: I've seen this bullshit before. My address has been anti-spammed. Please reply to: scasse@invalid.net replacing invalid with sonic. |
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