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Mac Forum / General / General / May 2008Umask for office documents
I would like that whenever I save a file with whatever program in a certain folder it saves it with permission rw-rw-r Using umask it works but only with shell created files, how can I set it globally?? Thanks a lot In article <a7345e87-c9b0-434d-a9e0-fa183912e9da@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, > I would like that whenever I save a file with whatever program in a > certain folder it saves it with permission [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > it globally?? > Thanks a lot You mean rw-rw-r-- ? Information I looked up shows that you need a Umask of 002. That you have to translate to decimal_number (don't know that one) and issue the following command in a terminal window: sudo defaults write /Library/Preferences/.GlobalPreferences NSUmask decimal_number (space between NSUmask and decimal_number) See also: http://forums.devshed.com/unix-help-35/umask-problem-159772.html You're well on your way with a Mac and Leopard. Why not switch to MT-Newswatcher in stead of GGroups? Good luck.  SignatureROT-13 to send an e-mail: 1abercyl@urgarg.ay > In article > <a7345e87-c9b0-434d-a9e0-fa183912e...@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > sudo defaults write /Library/Preferences/.GlobalPreferences NSUmask > decimal_number Yes I found this hint but this is a global change, which can lead to some problems if I'm not wrong... I may try that for the user which saves the fiiles > (space between NSUmask and decimal_number) > See also: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > -- > ROT-13 to send an e-mail: 1aber...@urgarg.ay Normally I use thunderbird but when I'm behind another server I can't use it > In article > <a7345e87-c9b0-434d-a9e0-fa183912e...@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > -- > ROT-13 to send an e-mail: 1aber...@urgarg.ay I tried this defaults write .GlobalPreferences.plist NSUmask 2 with no luck, the file doesn't change at all as diff say... In article <cba3251a-dff6-4647-aa4c-439d75c27ae5@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, > > In article > > <a7345e87-c9b0-434d-a9e0-fa183912e...@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > with no luck, the file doesn't change at all as diff say... Hello, I thought you were experienced with the subject. What you tried won't work. For instance: The default umask on Mac OS X systems is 022; this means that by default all users are granted read access to all newly created files. It is recommended that this be changed to 027 so that only users in the same group are permitted automatic read access to new files. Organisational security standards may dictate an alternative umask. Since the umask setting must be specified as a *** decimal value *** , the octal value 027 would be 23 in decimal notation. To change the default umask, execute the following command: sudo defaults write /Library/Preferences/.GlobalPreferences NSUmask 23 So....attenzione (attention please) Andrea...find out what the decimal notation of NSUmask 002 is. (don't know that one). That would solve your 'problem'. Good luck. SignatureROT-13 to send an e-mail: 1abercyl@urgarg.ay > Since the umask setting must be > specified as a *** decimal value *** , the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > notation of NSUmask 002 is. (don't know that one). That would solve your > 'problem'. For those who wish to convert hexadecimal, decimal, octal, and binary numbers the lazy way in Mac OS X 10.5: 1. Open /Applications/Calculator. 2. From the Calculator menu bar, choose View > Programmer (or just click the (+) button on the window title bar twice). 3. Just under the display area, click the "Dec" button. 4. Enter a decimal number. 5. Click "Oct" or "Hex" to view the corresponding equivalent. SignaturePlease send all responses to the relevant news group. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. I do not read posts from Google Groups. Use a real news reader if you want me to see your posts. JR > In article > <cba3251a-dff6-4647-aa4c-439d75c27...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > -- > ROT-13 to send an e-mail: 1aber...@urgarg.ay Yes I think I understood already, but the problem is that I only want ONE folder to behave with umask 002, for every program working on it. That default setting is not doing this if I'm not wrong... > > So....attenzione (attention please) Andrea...find out what the decimal > > notation of NSUmask 002 is. (don't know that one). That would solve your > > 'problem'. In this case (less than eight) it is the same. > Yes I think I understood already, but the problem is that I only want > ONE folder to behave with umask 002, for every program working on it. You want an access control list - http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=2005050120073947 More detailed info is here - http://www.bresink.com/osx/193281/Docs-en/ACL.html Billy Y.. In article <a7345e87-c9b0-434d-a9e0-fa183912e9da@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, > I would like that whenever I save a file with whatever program in a > certain folder it saves it with permission [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > it globally?? > Thanks a lot Have a look at <http://www.astro.washington.edu/owen/AquaEnvVar.html> SignatureTom Stiller PGP fingerprint = 5108 DDB2 9761 EDE5 E7E3 7BDA 71ED 6496 99C0 C7CF > I would like that whenever I save a file with whatever program in a > certain folder it saves it with permission [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Using umask it works but only with shell created files, how can I set > it globally?? Setting the umask is not a reliable way to do what you want if you are working outside the shell. Even if you do set it globally, some applications will ignore it and set the default -rw-r--r-- permissions anyway. Finder is one such app. A reliable way to do it is with ACLs. You must be running 10.4 or higher. Start with a new empty folder. Call it something like /Users/Shared/foo Then log in to an admin account, launch Terminal, paste these three lines all at once, replacing "UserName" with short name of a user or group to be given access: sudo chmod +a "UserName allow delete,chown,list,search,add_file,\ add_subdirectory,delete_child,file_inherit,directory_inherit" \ /Users/Shared/foo Repeat the above if you want to add more users. When done, you are finished. Any file that is newly created anywhere in that folder or its subfolders will be writable by all the users you specified. Note that if you want to move existing files there and have them inherit the group write privilege, you'll have to COPY them there (hold down the command key when drag-n-dropping). -- K. Lang may your lum reek. > > I would like that whenever I save a file with whatever program in a > > certain folder it saves it with permission [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > Lang may your lum reek. Thanks a lot, it works on my leopard mbp, but on that tiger Imac it gives: chmod: Failed to set ACL on file PAPI: Operation not supported > Thanks a lot, it works on my leopard mbp, but on that tiger Imac it > gives: > chmod: Failed to set ACL on file PAPI: Operation not supported Take a look at this - http://arstechnica.com/reviews/os/macosx-10-4.ars/8 Especially this part - | For ACLs to work at all, they must be enabled for a particular volume. | The Workgroup Manager application in Mac OS X 10.4 Server can do this, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] | | % sudo /usr/sbin/fsaclctl -p / -e The percent sign represents the command line prompt, and is not part of what you'd type in on the command line. Billy Y.. In article <6cefbaab-b532-4a87-b4c7-579c6059ed50@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>, > Thanks a lot, it works on my leopard mbp, but on that tiger Imac it > gives: > chmod: Failed to set ACL on file PAPI: Operation not supported Time to upgrade to Leopard then - or do without. SignaturePlease send all responses to the relevant news group. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. I do not read posts from Google Groups. Use a real news reader if you want me to see your posts. JR > Time to upgrade to Leopard then - or do without. No need to do that. I just forgot to tell him about the additional step that's required in 10.4; enabling ACLs with fsaclctl. With Leopard ACLs are already enabled. SignatureK. Lang may your lum reek. > Thanks a lot, it works on my leopard mbp, but on that tiger Imac it > gives: > chmod: Failed to set ACL on file PAPI: Operation not supported Sorry, there's an additional step for Tiger users that I forgot to tell you about. Before entering the sudo chmod +a command, enable ACLs on your boot volume by logging in to an admin account and entering this in Terminal: sudo fsaclctl -p / -e Then proceed with the rest. SignatureK. Lang may your lum reek. > > Thanks a lot, it works on my leopard mbp, but on that tiger Imac it > > gives: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > you about. Before entering the sudo chmod +a command, enable ACLs on > your boot volume Oh right! Forgot about that. Disregard my earlier message. : ) SignaturePlease send all responses to the relevant news group. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. I do not read posts from Google Groups. Use a real news reader if you want me to see your posts. JR |
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