Problem shutting down 10.5.2 with Time Machine active

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Bill Williams - 26 May 2008 22:08 GMT

I am running 10.5.2 leopard, with time machine, on an Imac G4 (the
hemispherical lamp base model). Seems generally good except for a couple
of glitches.

One is that the finder occasionally hangs and won't respond to mouse
clicks, once it wouldn't even respond to force quit.

The other is that if I try to shutdown, with multiple accounts in use, I
first get the expected message about there are other users and I have to
give the admin name and password. But when I do that, if TM is running,
I sometimes get the reply that the user name or the password is invalid,
even though I know it is valid. Has anyone else seen this behavior? It
doesn't seem to be totally repeatable, or at least it is very tedious to
set up a repeatable experiment, because when the shutdown works I have
to go through the restart procedure before I can try again.

Thanks for any insights.

Bill Williams

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magdalena - 26 May 2008 23:01 GMT

> I am running 10.5.2 leopard, with time machine, on an Imac G4 (the
> hemispherical lamp base model). Seems generally good except for a couple
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>
> Bill Williams

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but are you trying to shut down while
Time Machine is running? Doesn't sound like a good idea to me.

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Bill Williams - 27 May 2008 00:25 GMT

In article
<magdalenabung-52DA54.18013326052008@newsgroups.comcast.net>,

> > ... if I try to shutdown, with multiple accounts in use, I
> > first get the expected message about there are other users and I have to
> > give the admin name and password. But when I do that, if TM is running,
> > I sometimes get the reply that the user name or the password is invalid,
> > even though I know it is valid.

> > Bill Williams
>
> Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but are you trying to shut down while
> Time Machine is running? Doesn't sound like a good idea to me.

Thanks for the reply. Perhaps I am expecting too much, but generally
Time Machine seems pretty tolerant of mounting and ejecting its disks,
and even of shutting down on a power failure. But the weird thing here
is that you issue a shutdown command from some other account, get a
normal sort of warning that you need an admin id and password, and then
simply get the password rejected as apparently invalid.

Bill.

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Jolly Roger - 27 May 2008 00:08 GMT

> if I try to shutdown, with multiple accounts in use, I
> first get the expected message about there are other users and I have to
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> set up a repeatable experiment, because when the shutdown works I have
> to go through the restart procedure before I can try again.

If you can reliably reproduce this, I encourage you to report it to
Apple so they are aware of the problem:

<http://developer.apple.com/bugreporter/>

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Bill Williams - 28 May 2008 11:17 GMT

> I am running 10.5.2 leopard, with time machine....
> if I try to shutdown, with multiple accounts in use, I
> get the expected message about there are other users and I have to
> give the admin name and password. But when I do that, if TM is running,
> I sometimes get the reply that the user name or the password is invalid.

Update .. Apparently caused by a failed upgrade to 10.5.2 I archived
and reinstalled and all seems OK now. Thanks for the advice.

Bill

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