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any problems with Leopard on G5s?

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O. Hendersen - 20 May 2008 20:02 GMT
I work at a leading edge newspaper publisher and
we are upgrading our system from G4s running OS9
to G5s running Tiger or Leopard.

One of the bosses said they had heard there were
problems with Leopard on G5s.

Is that true? If so, what problems?

Leopard runs great on my intel MBP. I think it's
the best, most stable system Apple has produced.

Thanks

O.

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Andy Hewitt - 20 May 2008 20:24 GMT
> I work at a leading edge newspaper publisher and
> we are upgrading our system from G4s running OS9
> to G5s running Tiger or Leopard.

Leading edge? and 'upgrading' to G5s!!!

> One of the bosses said they had heard there were
> problems with Leopard on G5s.
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> Leopard runs great on my intel MBP. I think it's
> the best, most stable system Apple has produced.

Not that I'm aware of - G5 dual 1.8GHz, running 10.5.2 quite nicely
thank you.

It may be useful to find out what particular applications are required
to run, and see if there are any issues with those.

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Davoud - 21 May 2008 13:28 GMT
O. Hendersen:

> > I work at a leading edge newspaper publisher and
> > we are upgrading our system from G4s running OS9
> > to G5s running Tiger or Leopard.

Andy Hewitt:
> Leading edge? and 'upgrading' to G5s!!!

Yeah, why not? They're not in the leading edge computer business,
they're in the leading edge publishing business. They _could_ be
casting type in lead and using a hand press and still be a leading-edge
publisher.

Davoud

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Andy Hewitt - 21 May 2008 14:27 GMT
> O. Hendersen:
> >
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> casting type in lead and using a hand press and still be a leading-edge
> publisher.

OK, but my point was, what was the point of mentioning it? It's the
context in which is was used, just a bit unnecessary.

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O. Hendersen - 21 May 2008 15:39 GMT
> O. Hendersen:
> >
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>
> Davoud

IT WAS A JOKE.
We've been whining for years about the antique equipment
and software we're forced to use.

The company isn't leading edge in ANY way... except
perhaps in penny-pinching.  I suppose we shouldn't be too
pissed off that we're getting CS2.

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Andy Hewitt - 21 May 2008 16:25 GMT
> > O. Hendersen:
> > >
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> perhaps in penny-pinching.  I suppose we shouldn't be too
> pissed off that we're getting CS2.

Perhaps you should suggest they get Gimp! - that'd *really* save some
pennies :-)

Joking apart, if they really need to work to a budget, have they really
considered any of the open source stuff out there, there's quite a lot,
and IIRC you can get something to cover most aspects of publishing.

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Fred Moore - 21 May 2008 16:28 GMT
> ... I suppose we shouldn't be too pissed off that we're getting CS2.

Ahah, more information. Perhaps what your boss heard was that there are
problems with 10.5 and CS. This is correct. You can get a measure of
them by reading forums such as Macintouch applications, Adobe:
<http://www.macintouch.com/readerreports/applications/topic3000.html>

The first appropriate entry is Sep 19, 2007, where Adobe's CEO
guarantees CS3 (note that's *3*, NOT 2) will work with Leopard. Continue
on from there to see other's experiences.

Best of luck. You may need it.

--Fred
Jolly Roger - 21 May 2008 17:22 GMT
> > ... I suppose we shouldn't be too pissed off that we're getting CS2.
>
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> guarantees CS3 (note that's *3*, NOT 2) will work with Leopard. Continue
> on from there to see other's experiences.

My experience running CS2 on my dual 2 GHz Power Mac G5 tower is it
mostly works okay. Now, I'm not running all CS2 applications daily, so
my experience would probably differ from a graphic artist. I do use
Photoshop, Illustrator, and InDesign occasionally without problem though.

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Earle Jones - 30 May 2008 20:07 GMT
> > I work at a leading edge newspaper publisher and
> > we are upgrading our system from G4s running OS9
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> Not that I'm aware of - G5 dual 1.8GHz, running 10.5.2 quite nicely
> thank you.

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OldCSMAer - 20 May 2008 20:57 GMT
> I work at a leading edge newspaper publisher and
> we are upgrading our system from G4s running OS9
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Leopard runs great on my intel MBP. I think it's
> the best, most stable system Apple has produced.

I installed it on a G5 iMac and a G4 Mini.  (1 gig of RAM on each.)  So
far, so good.

Cheers,

Bob S
Adrian - 20 May 2008 21:21 GMT
> I work at a leading edge newspaper publisher and
> we are upgrading our system from G4s running OS9
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Leopard runs great on my intel MBP. I think it's
> the best, most stable system Apple has produced.

I saw some test results (maybe at http://www.barefeats.com/) which
showed PPC Macs suffering a slight performance hit compared with running
same apps in Tiger. (The progression from Jaguar to Panther to Tiger
actually saw a speed increase. Leopard finally went slightly the other
way, at least on PPC)

Bear in mind that with Leopard you lose the Classic environment. This
may be significant if you are working alongside some G4s on OS9.

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Dave Balderstone - 20 May 2008 21:39 GMT
> I work at a leading edge newspaper publisher and
> we are upgrading our system from G4s running OS9
> to G5s running Tiger or Leopard.

Hint: That's not "leading edge" by ANY stretch of the imagination.

> One of the bosses said they had heard there were
> problems with Leopard on G5s.
>
> Is that true?

No.

> If so, what problems?
>
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>
> O.

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heron stone - 21 May 2008 02:42 GMT
> > I work at a leading edge newspaper publisher and
> > we are upgrading our system from G4s running OS9
> > to G5s running Tiger or Leopard.
>
> Hint: That's not "leading edge" by ANY stretch of the imagination.

.i know.... it was a joke  ;-)

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Jolly Roger - 20 May 2008 22:17 GMT
> One of the bosses said they had heard there were
> problems with Leopard on G5s.
>
> Is that true? If so, what problems?

No significant problems here to report on several Power Mac G5 towers.

Then again, I'm sure if you look, you can find *someone* who has had an
issue or two - Google is your friend.

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Mike Rosenberg - 20 May 2008 22:20 GMT
> > One of the bosses said they had heard there were
> > problems with Leopard on G5s.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Then again, I'm sure if you look, you can find *someone* who has had an
> issue or two - Google is your friend.

Well, yeah, of course, but if we're talking about specific issues with
Leopard unique to G5s, I haven't heard of any.

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Davoud - 21 May 2008 13:25 GMT
> I work at a leading edge newspaper publisher and
> we are upgrading our system from G4s running OS9
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Leopard runs great on my intel MBP. I think it's
> the best, most stable system Apple has produced.

Runs great on my wife's Dual 2GHz. Runs great on _my_ Dual 2GHz as long
as I don't let it sleep. Wake from sleep in Leopard on that machine is
a guaranteed, repeatable lockup. There have been other reports of this,
but not a sufficient number to say that it is a deal breaker.

Davoud

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Andy Hewitt - 21 May 2008 14:27 GMT
> > I work at a leading edge newspaper publisher and
> > we are upgrading our system from G4s running OS9
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> a guaranteed, repeatable lockup. There have been other reports of this,
> but not a sufficient number to say that it is a deal breaker.

Have you upgraded the graphics card by any chance? I have mine running
with the stock 5200FX card now, replacement cards just seem to cause
wake from sleep issues.

Some PCI cards do this too - especially USB expansion cards.

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