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HowdyDoody - 29 Mar 2008 13:21 GMT I am new to MAC OSX 10.5 and I have made text signatures work but I am at a loss as to how to use a JPG as a signature line. Any help would be appreciated.
Gregory Weston - 29 Mar 2008 14:44 GMT > I am new to MAC OSX 10.5 and I have made text signatures work but I am at a > loss as to how to use a JPG as a signature > line. Any help would be appreciated. My advice is: don't. The instant you deviate from plain text content you inherently reduce the number of people who can and will see your message. You've also at a minimum doubled the bandwidth consumption for both you and them in the process and the space the message takes on both machines as long as it's retained.
Andy - 29 Mar 2008 15:42 GMT > > I am new to MAC OSX 10.5 and I have made text signatures work but I am at a > > loss as to how to use a JPG as a signature [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > both you and them in the process and the space the message takes on both > machines as long as it's retained. It's also a complete and utter w.nk.
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Jolly Roger - 29 Mar 2008 16:00 GMT > I am new to MAC OSX 10.5 and I have made text signatures work but I am at a > loss as to how to use a JPG as a signature > line. Any help would be appreciated. Put yourself in others shoes.
Have you considered that everyone else in the world might not *want* to see your spiffy HTML formatted emails with whatever font size and style *you* think looks great? Have you considered that other may not want to have to download an image every time they receive an email from you?
You can bet if every message you sent *me* had a freaking image attachment, I'd quickly grow tired of having to download your emails! I might even just simply ignore you without telling you.
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HowdyDoody - 29 Mar 2008 16:38 GMT Well,I do not send mail to everyone in the world, just a few select friends, so I don't believe that would be a problem. As I mentioned before, just want to add a very small <avatar> sized jpg as a sig not a full page jpg,
>> I am new to MAC OSX 10.5 and I have made text signatures work but I am at a >> loss as to how to use a JPG as a signature [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >attachment, I'd quickly grow tired of having to download your emails! I >might even just simply ignore you without telling you. Király - 29 Mar 2008 17:02 GMT > Well,I do not send mail to everyone in the world, just a few select > friends, so I don't believe that would be a problem. Friends don't let friends send HTML e-mail.
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Jolly Roger - 29 Mar 2008 17:04 GMT > >> I am new to MAC OSX 10.5 and I have made text signatures work but I am at > >> a [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Well,I do not send mail to everyone in the world, just a few select friends, > so I don't believe that would be a problem. Have you actually asked your friends whether they would prefer plain text or formatted messages (HTML)?
Have you asked them if they would prefer you not send image attachments with every single message to them?
> As I mentioned before, just want to add a very small <avatar> sized jpg as a > sig not a full page jpg, I suspect you're already using HTML, which, as I explained, is typically 2-4 times larger for the same length message. Now you want to add an image to increase your bandwidth and storage space usage on other people's machines that much more.
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HowdyDoody - 29 Mar 2008 17:11 GMT Well, since we exchange pictures, cartoons, videos, and such, I don't believe that it would be a problem to attach a small image as a sig on my mail.
>> >> I am new to MAC OSX 10.5 and I have made text signatures work but I am at >> >> a [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >image to increase your bandwidth and storage space usage on other >people's machines that much more. Frank P. Eigler - 29 Mar 2008 18:26 GMT : Well, since we exchange pictures, cartoons, videos, and such, I don't believe that it would be a problem to attach a : small image as a sig on my mail. The 'problem' is that those files which you exchange are most likely placed somewhere specific or actually used in some capaccity. Or burned to a cd/dvd. Or perhaps deleted after the initial chuckle. They are useful.
Your image will linger on the recipient's HD until the message is deleted, serving no purpose. I have a friend who does this. Every month or so I go to my attachments folder (I use Eudora) and delete them all. They, at best, somewhat cute, but also wasteful. Even with HDs in the hundreds of GBs and CPUs working at 3GB and faster, I still can't imagine it doesn't take 'some' toll on their resources.
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jt august - 30 Mar 2008 02:14 GMT > Your image will linger on the recipient's HD until the message is deleted, > serving no purpose. And if the recipient is at a corporation or government agency that backs up everything daily, and may have a policy prohibiting mail deletions, this adds to archival bulk needlessly.
All for the vanity of some howdy-doody who wants to use his real signature.
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Andy - 30 Mar 2008 01:08 GMT In article <jollyroger-B20BC6.11041229032008@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,
> > Well,I do not send mail to everyone in the world, just a few select > > friends, > > so I don't believe that would be a problem. > > Have you actually asked your friends whether they would prefer plain > text or formatted messages (HTML)? Was that a rhetorical question? :-)
We're quite clearly dealing with a rude, arrogant newbie with no f.cking idea of netiquette (hence the constant top-posting), and no desire to learn.
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HowdyDoody - 30 Mar 2008 02:10 GMT >In article ><jollyroger-B20BC6.11041229032008@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >idea of netiquette (hence the constant top-posting), and no desire to >learn.
>A. Is this better ? Plonk to you as well.
Andy - 30 Mar 2008 02:40 GMT > >In article > ><jollyroger-B20BC6.11041229032008@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >idea of netiquette (hence the constant top-posting), and no desire to > >learn.
> >A.
> Is this better ? Plonk to you as well. Point proven. Thanks for that, fuckwit.
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Michelle Steiner - 30 Mar 2008 02:58 GMT > > >We're quite clearly dealing with a rude, arrogant newbie with no > > >f.cking idea of netiquette (hence the constant top-posting), and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Point proven. Thanks for that, fuckwit. Hey, at least he didn't top post his reply.
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Andy - 30 Mar 2008 02:59 GMT > > > >We're quite clearly dealing with a rude, arrogant newbie with no > > > >f.cking idea of netiquette (hence the constant top-posting), and [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Hey, at least he didn't top post his reply. And it only took 30+ posts in the thread to get through to him. Hurrah!
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Don Bruder - 30 Mar 2008 05:47 GMT > > >In article > > ><jollyroger-B20BC6.11041229032008@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>, [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > A. Welcome to the "plonked by a putz" club. If I've been keeping score correctly, I'm the president, since he plonked me first :)
Guess that makes you the secretary?
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Andy - 30 Mar 2008 06:09 GMT > > > Is this better ? Plonk to you as well. > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Guess that makes you the secretary? Well, I'm honoured! What's the expected salary?
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Don Bruder - 30 Mar 2008 09:47 GMT > > > > Is this better ? Plonk to you as well. > > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Andy. Salary? Nobody said anything about a salary. Where do I go to collect mine?
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Mike Rosenberg - 29 Mar 2008 17:16 GMT > Put yourself in others shoes. > > Have you considered that everyone else in the world might not *want* to > see your spiffy HTML formatted emails with whatever font size and style > *you* think looks great? Have you considered that other may not want to > have to download an image every time they receive an email from you? I agree with you in principle, JR, but maybe it's time we come to grips with the fact that people just want to do things like this, are lot of them are already doing it, and even Apple has joined the trend with Leopard's Mail. I mean, face it, anyone running Leopard just has to use Mail's stationery feature. Are we going to tell them all that they shouldn't be doing something built right in to the program they're using?
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Jolly Roger - 29 Mar 2008 17:23 GMT > > Put yourself in others shoes. > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > shouldn't be doing something built right in to the program they're > using? You're right. People, in general, these days aren't considerate at all. I guess it's a sign of the times.
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Mike Rosenberg - 29 Mar 2008 17:31 GMT > You're right. People, in general, these days aren't considerate at all. > I guess it's a sign of the times. Thing is, to purists like us, it can be viewed as inconsiderate, but I'd prefer to call it naive. But, looking at it another way, for the average home user these days, with a huge hard drive they'll never fill unless they start working on movie projects and a high speed internet connection they almost never max out, what does it matter really? These are the people who are using their computers more for social reasons than for business purposes, so why would it even be an issue for them?
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jt august - 30 Mar 2008 02:30 GMT > Are we going to tell them all that they > shouldn't be doing something built right in to the program they're > using? If you can make a real dinosaur out of fossilized DNA, should you do it just because you can?
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Michelle Steiner - 30 Mar 2008 02:57 GMT > If you can make a real dinosaur out of fossilized DNA, should you do > it just because you can? Sure. Just make sure you do it safely.
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jt august - 30 Mar 2008 08:46 GMT > > If you can make a real dinosaur out of fossilized DNA, should you do > > it just because you can? > > Sure. Just make sure you do it safely. OK, Michelle, to target something you appear to be passionate about:
If we can go to war in Iraq, should we?
According to Jurassic Park, bringing dinosaurs back from the dead would not be a good idea.
According to almost everyone except the boy genius and his pace-maker zombied assistant (and Rush's and O'Rielly's cronies) , we shouldn't be in Iraq.
And according to the majority of experienced netters in this forum, Howdy-Doodie should not use a .jpg in his .sig file.
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Mike Rosenberg - 30 Mar 2008 14:38 GMT > > > If you can make a real dinosaur out of fossilized DNA, should you do > > > it just because you can? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > If we can go to war in Iraq, should we? Using Jurassic Park and the war in Iraq as analogies to HTML in email? Close enough to Godwin's Law for me!
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Jolly Roger - 29 Mar 2008 16:01 GMT > I am new to MAC OSX 10.5 and I have made text signatures work but I am at a > loss as to how to use a JPG as a signature > line. Any help would be appreciated. Plain text is the preferred method for emails by people who know the internet. It is efficient, safe, virus-free, will be readable by any mail client at the other end, doesn't impose your font, size, style preferences on others, and has far smaller risk of being filtered out by spam filters.
HTML messages are generally two to four times larger for the same message than plain text equivalents. That means not only do they take longer to transfer over the net, contributing to network congestion, they also take up more disk space on your computer, on the recipient's computer, and on every server they hit along the way!
With HTML messages, the people who receive the messages have little or no control over the text font, size, and style. They must read the message in whatever font, size, and style *you* set when you created the message. Plain Text messages, on the other hand, display in whatever font, size, and style the recipient wishes.
HTML email is dangerous because it may contain links to external sites that will do malicious things. For instance, a spammer can include a link to an image, but this link contains a tag as data. The server at the other end will get that request when your *read your email* and based on the tag, will be able to confirm that you've read the email and not only flag your email address as active/good, but also use your IP with geographical location servers to assign a location code so that they can then sell your email address to other spammers along with your general location. If everyone stopped sending HTML emails, everyone would block it, and then spammers would be left with very few means to escape spam filters because their messages would have to be simple and without tricks.
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HowdyDoody - 29 Mar 2008 16:36 GMT I understand, and I have always used text, but I want to put a small <avatar> jpg on my mails, not some large jpg.
>> I am new to MAC OSX 10.5 and I have made text signatures work but I am at a >> loss as to how to use a JPG as a signature [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > ><http://mailformat.dan.info/> Király - 29 Mar 2008 17:02 GMT > I understand, and I have always used text, but I want to put a small > <avatar> jpg on my mails, not some large jpg. If you really want to do it, use some program like Appleworks or Photoshop to do it, and then send it as an attachment along with your email.
Will others see it in the body of the email and not as an attachment? It depends entirely on what e-mail program they are using. You have no control over it.
Yet one more reason to use plain text and not HTML for e-mail.
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Ian Gregory - 29 Mar 2008 17:02 GMT > I understand, and I have always used text, but I want to put a small > <avatar> jpg on my mails, not some large jpg. Well you can't include images in text email so I can only think of four options:
1) Send HTML email (and join the legions of the Anti-Christ) 2) Turn your avatar into ascii art 3) Add an X-Face header (Only 48x48, not JPEG, not widely supported) 4) Attach a vCard (RFC 2426)
Whilst avatars are common in chat systems there is AIUI no standard way to use them in email.
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Michelle Steiner - 29 Mar 2008 17:30 GMT > Well you can't include images in text email Sure you can; it's called an attachment. Not all multipart-MIME mail is HTML.
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Ian Gregory - 29 Mar 2008 17:53 GMT >> Well you can't include images in text email > > Sure you can; it's called an attachment. Not all multipart-MIME mail is > HTML. I know, that is why I suggested attaching a vCard. What I meant is that you can't include images in Content-Type: text/plain
An option I left out would just be to attach a JPEG but there would be no clear way to indicate that it is an avatar representing the sender rather than just some random attached image.
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Jolly Roger - 29 Mar 2008 17:05 GMT > >> I am new to MAC OSX 10.5 and I have made text signatures work but I am at > >> a [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > I understand, and I have always used text, but I want to put a small <avatar> > jpg on my mails, not some large jpg. The best you can do with plain text is attach an image to the message, and most email clients will display the image at the bottom of the message.
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HowdyDoody - 29 Mar 2008 17:17 GMT Thanks. That what I did and the world is safe <G>. Happy for your input.
>> >> I am new to MAC OSX 10.5 and I have made text signatures work but I am at >> >> a [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] >and most email clients will display the image at the bottom of the >message. Don Bruder - 29 Mar 2008 17:20 GMT > I understand, and I have always used text, but I want to put a small <avatar> > jpg on my mails, not some large jpg. Even a "small" jpg will easily double the size of every typical email.
And even the smallest jpg (or any html) in an email will cause me, for one (and doubtless many, many others) to drop you straight into the killfile as a clueless, inconsiderate boob that I don't want to have anything to do with.
Take the hint: DON'T DO IT! Even if you figure out a way that makes it possible, it's a BAD THING<TM>.
That's just all the 'net needs... Some bozo thinking that a jpg is a sig is a good thing... All it takes is one idiot like you to get the ball rolling, and next thing you know, the 'net is being strangled as every email totes along a 10K sig jpeg - to go along with the 8 byte "Me too!!" text of the message, and the 400 lines of quoted "Me too!!" text...
Yeah, brilliant idea. Absolutely f.cking brilliant.
NOT!
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HowdyDoody - 30 Mar 2008 00:18 GMT A lot of anger here. A simple response would be so much nicer than a screed and a rant. I guess coming over to the Apple side does not leave behind people of your sort. Please don't bother to respond, as I have you in my kill file <plonk>.
>> I understand, and I have always used text, but I want to put a small <avatar> >> jpg on my mails, not some large jpg. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >NOT! jt august - 29 Mar 2008 17:49 GMT > I understand, and I have always used text, but I want to put a small <avatar> > jpg on my mails, not some large jpg. You're obviously missing the point. In the common world of the internet, images in e-mail are frowned upon unless the e-mail is about the image (such as where I work, where a customer who has an item with a flaw can send pictures of the item back to us so that we can determine the best repair option). But to just have even a tine graphic in every e-mail is generally disliked for a large number of reasons. You are saying you don't care and you want to have the image there no matter what anyone thinks. That will cause some people to automatically killfile your emails, and you'll wonder why you don't get responses from them.
We are trying to get through to you, you would be better off to NOT put any graphic in your .sig file. You can do it, but you really shouldn't. Quit trying to justify it by saying it is small. If it is a .gif or a .jpg, it is too big, regardless.
If you can't accept that people don't like it, that is you right to hold that attitude. But if you think you can convince the rest of us we are wrong for not liking it, you will simply be flamed.
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tacit - 31 Mar 2008 04:26 GMT > I understand, and I have always used text, but I want to put a small <avatar> > jpg on my mails, not some large jpg. Please don't.
Gimmicky little vanity things like that do not improve your standing in the eyes of many folks familiar witht he Internet, and they will be stripped out by many corporate firewalls, as well as by anyone who knows anything about security.
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Michelle Steiner - 29 Mar 2008 16:40 GMT > I am new to MAC OSX 10.5 and I have made text signatures work but I > am at a loss as to how to use a JPG as a signature Just paste it where you would type a sig in the Signatures preference. You can even mix text and pictures there.
This is assuming that you're using mail.app and not a third-party mail program.
The wisdom of having pictorial sigs is another matter.
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HowdyDoody - 29 Mar 2008 17:12 GMT That is what I did, and it is very tiny and I do use the mail.app most of the time, sometimes I use Thunderbird. Thanks for your input.
>> I am new to MAC OSX 10.5 and I have made text signatures work but I >> am at a loss as to how to use a JPG as a signature [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >The wisdom of having pictorial sigs is another matter. Michelle Steiner - 29 Mar 2008 17:29 GMT > That is what I did, and it is very tiny and I do use the mail.app > most of the time, sometimes I use Thunderbird. Thanks for your input. Email me a message using that pictorial sig and then email me the same message without any sig. I'll let you know the difference in size between the messages.
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Jeffrey Goldberg - 29 Mar 2008 23:02 GMT > I am new to MAC OSX 10.5 and I have made text signatures work but I am > at a loss as to how to use a JPG as a signature line. Any help would be > appreciated. Only a select few, including myself, may use JPG as a signature.
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HowdyDoody - 30 Mar 2008 00:21 GMT Thanks. Can I join your select few <G>......
>> I am new to MAC OSX 10.5 and I have made text signatures work but I am >> at a loss as to how to use a JPG as a signature line. Any help would be [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >JPG >(Jeffrey Paul Goldberg) Jeffrey Goldberg - 29 Mar 2008 23:11 GMT > I am new to MAC OSX 10.5 and I have made text signatures work but I am > at a loss as to how to use a JPG as a signature line. Any help would be > appreciated. Mail.app and presumably other mail programs will display a picture from your address book that corresponds to the address of the sender of the mail that you are viewing.
If your recipients are using a program that does what Mail.app does, then just make sure they have the picture of you that you want in their address book.
This way you are not sending a picture with each mail message.
Cheers,
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Mamamia - 30 Mar 2008 12:10 GMT > I am new to MAC OSX 10.5 and I have made text signatures work but I am at a > loss as to how to use a JPG as a signature > line. Any help would be appreciated. I personally do not recommend routinely sending out your signature in jpg format to anyone. There is too much abuse in this day and time, and friends may not always remain friends, if you get my drift. That simple sig file could be copy-pasted into a document and used to your discredit at some point in time, should a friendship become dissolved. And just how would you deny that said document that someone faxed somewhere was not sent by you? Do you see my point? Some things are better kept to yourself, IMHO.
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