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Mac Forum / General / General / November 2007Turn off imac's screen but leave the mac on? (NOT sleeping?)
I have a new imac. How do I turn off the screen but leave the computer on. Not sleeping. On. Also, what is the term for the imac I have? I mean, there's "imacs" dating back to 1998. So what is the term for my new imac? Imac 2007 or what? Running leopard btw. > Also, what is the term for the imac I have? I mean, there's "imacs" > dating back to 1998. So what is the term for my new imac? Imac 2007 or > what? Intel iMac or mention the iMac's cpu speed should identify it accurately. In article <e9d7b19e-c31a-42ef-b5bb-f488e4390cef@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, > I have a new imac. How do I turn off the screen but leave the > computer on. Not sleeping. On. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Running leopard btw. Open System Preferences->Energy Saver and set the options and timing the way you want them. Clicking on the Screen Saver button will bring up the Desktop and Screen Saver pane where you may specify the hot corner(s) which will activate the screen saver.  SignatureTom Stiller PGP fingerprint = 5108 DDB2 9761 EDE5 E7E3 7BDA 71ED 6496 99C0 C7CF > In article > <e9d7b19e-c31a-42ef-b5bb-f488e4390...@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > PGP fingerprint = 5108 DDB2 9761 EDE5 E7E3 7BDA 71ED 6496 99C0 C7CF Er, but then if I bump the corner by accident, the screen will shut off, right? I don't think I want a "hot corner"... I want to be able to turn off (and on) the monitor instantly. In article <f3e0e3be-6b5a-4c4e-8101-ca2e043ea1f6@e1g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, > Er, but then if I bump the corner by accident, the screen will shut > off, right? I don't think I want a "hot corner"... I want to be > able to turn off (and on) the monitor instantly. The hot corner will turn it off instantly. If you turn it off with a hot corner, you can turn it back on simply by moving the mouse to turn it back on instantly. SignatureSupport the troops: Bring them home ASAP. > The hot corner will turn it off instantly. This is what I finally resorted to when I was trying to deal with this. I do wish that there were a way to do this without having to set a hot corner for it. -j SignatureJeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ I rarely read top-posted, over-quoting or HTML postings. http://improve-usenet.org/ > > The hot corner will turn it off instantly. > > This is what I finally resorted to when I was trying to deal with > this. I do wish that there were a way to do this without having to > set a hot corner for it. Why? What is the problem with a hot corner? SignatureSupport the troops: Bring them home ASAP. > Why? What is the problem with a hot corner? There are two infelicities of using a hot corner. First of all, the most common situation where I want to sleep the display is from my daughter's account. The iMac is in her bedroom, and I want her to sleep though not the Mac. I don't want to mess with her hot corners. But I might want to mess with her machine (ssh) while she (my daughter) is sleeping or trying to get to sleep. I use my hot corners for something else on all of my accounts. I'd prefer to keep my account on my daughter's machine to be the same in this respect to other machines. I suppose I could set up a separate account, just for the hot corner. Cheers, -j SignatureJeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ I rarely read top-posted, over-quoting or HTML postings. http://improve-usenet.org/ > There are two infelicities of using a hot corner. First of all, the most > common situation where I want to sleep the display is from my daughter's > account. The iMac is in her bedroom, and I want her to sleep though not > the Mac. I don't want to mess with her hot corners. But I might want to > mess with her machine (ssh) while she (my daughter) is sleeping or trying > to get to sleep. Well, this is solved by setting display sleep to some nominal value (5 minutes?). You've already rejected that, though. SignatureHelp improve usenet. Kill-file Google Groups. http://improve-usenet.org/ In <281120071928541545%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca>, Dave Balderstone...: > Well, this is solved by setting display sleep to some nominal value (5 > minutes?). You've already rejected that, though. I will need to talk to my daughter to find out if she would be happy with that. I know that she likes her screen savers. None of this is really a big deal. It's really just a minor inconvenience. Mostly, I'm just surprised that there isn't some menu somewhere to get Sleep Display on demand. So now it is mostly a matter of curiosity. The various work arounds (hot corner in my account, short time to sleep, etc) are acceptable for my needs. They are not optimal, they are still work-arounds, but still acceptable. I don't know whether the OP feels the same. Cheers, -j SignatureJeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ I rarely read top-posted, over-quoting or HTML postings. http://improve-usenet.org/ > In <281120071928541545%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca>, Dave Balderstone...: > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > I rarely read top-posted, over-quoting or HTML postings. > http://improve-usenet.org/ I'm against a 5-minute display sleep because I don't want my monitor turning off every 5 minutes while I'm using it. If I'm watching a dvd, there's no mouse activity. If I'm reading something or thinking about what's on the screen there's no mouse activity... In any case, it's generally nuts that I can't turn my computer's monitor off and leave the computer on. I can do with with any computer (mac or pc) besides an Imac. Isn't this supposed to be the user- friendly computer? There should just be a physical button. (There should also be a physical button to eject a disc too.) In article <7ce339de-15d5-4e91-8b2e-78f9c83b40ac@s36g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, > In any case, it's generally nuts that I can't turn my computer's > monitor off and leave the computer on. I can do with with any > computer (mac or pc) besides an Imac. Can you do it on any brand of laptop without folding it up? SignatureSupport the troops: Bring them home ASAP. > In article > <7ce339de-15d5-4e91-8b2e-78f9c83b40ac@s36g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Can you do it on any brand of laptop without folding it up? I can do it on my Intel iMac and MacBook Pro. It ain't rocket science... SignatureHelp improve usenet. Kill-file Google Groups. http://improve-usenet.org/ > > > In any case, it's generally nuts that I can't turn my computer's > > > monitor off and leave the computer on. I can do with with any [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I can do it on my Intel iMac and MacBook Pro. It ain't rocket > science... How do you turn the monitor off on the MacBook Pro without closing the lid? I don't have one (nor any laptop ever made by anyone, for that matter), so I not only don't know how to do it, but didn't know that it could be done until now. SignatureSupport the troops: Bring them home ASAP. > How do you turn the monitor off on the MacBook Pro without closing the > lid? brightness buttons will reduce it to off. > I don't have one (nor any laptop ever made by anyone, for that > matter), so I not only don't know how to do it, but didn't know that it > could be done until now. every powerbook/ibook/macbook could extinguish the backlight. > How do you turn the monitor off on the MacBook Pro without closing the > lid? Brightness key, or sleep display (set time or hot corner). Closing the lid puts the Mac to sleep, not just the display. SignatureHelp improve usenet. Kill-file Google Groups. http://improve-usenet.org/ > > How do you turn the monitor off on the MacBook Pro without closing > > the lid? > > Brightness key, Thanks. It doesn't do that on the iMac. It just dims it at the lowest level. SignatureSupport the troops: Bring them home ASAP. > > > How do you turn the monitor off on the MacBook Pro without closing > > > the lid? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Thanks. It doesn't do that on the iMac. It just dims it at the lowest > level. Ah. Yes, what it does on the MacBook is turns off the backlight entirely, not turn off video. SignatureHelp improve usenet. Kill-file Google Groups. http://improve-usenet.org/ > How do you turn the monitor off on the MacBook Pro without closing the > lid? I don't have one (nor any laptop ever made by anyone, for that > matter), so I not only don't know how to do it, but didn't know that it > could be done until now. i have a macbook thats plugged into my tv. for some reason FrontRow in 10.5 forces me to mirror displays. so in order to turn off the macbook w/o closing its lid, i simply use the keyboard's brightness keys -- move it all the way down and it turns off the display. its a manual work-around. sm In article <f3e0e3be-6b5a-4c4e-8101-ca2e043ea1f6@e1g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, > > In article > > <e9d7b19e-c31a-42ef-b5bb-f488e4390...@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > off, right? I don't think I want a "hot corner"... I want to be able > to turn off (and on) the monitor instantly. Sorry, I can't help you. Try Google. SignatureTom Stiller PGP fingerprint = 5108 DDB2 9761 EDE5 E7E3 7BDA 71ED 6496 99C0 C7CF dterrors wrote: << Er, but then if I bump the corner by accident, the screen will shut off, right? I don't think I want a "hot corner"... I want to be able to turn off (and on) the monitor instantly. >> You might try the freeware app called "Brightness Control" which can be found here: http://www.splasm.com/products/productbrightness.html It doesn't turn the screen "off", but dims it down as low as you want, even all the way down to black. You can then just press the "escape" key to restore the screen to its previous setting. I use it often when I'm going to be away from the screen for a little while. Just bring up Brightness Control, click or drag the slider to where you want, and let go. To restore things, I click escape, then type "Command-H" to hide Brightness Control until I need to use it again. - John In article <e9d7b19e-c31a-42ef-b5bb-f488e4390cef@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, > I have a new imac. How do I turn off the screen but leave the > computer on. Not sleeping. On. System Preferences -> Energy Saver Set "Put the display(s) to sleep when the computer is inactive for:" to whatever time delay you want to use. > In article > <e9d7b19e-c31a-42ef-b5bb-f488e4390cef@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Set "Put the display(s) to sleep when the computer is inactive for:" to > whatever time delay you want to use. Yes, I've seen that. But it doesn't answer the same need. It is quite common for me to be leaving the computer for a while and want to put the display (but not the computer) to sleep *RIGHT NOW*, on command - not after some delay. Sure I could set the enery-saver delay to some negligable time, but then that would be annoying in general use. And I sure don't want to have to go in and fiddle those preferences every time I leave or come back to the computer. That enery saver preference might count as the closest one can come, but it isn't the same thing. I'm not the OP, but I was watching the replies because I've had very much the same desire, but never found an answer. So far I haven't seen one here either. :-( SignatureRichard Maine | Good judgement comes from experience; email: last name at domain . net | experience comes from bad judgement. domain: summertriangle | -- Mark Twain > > In article > > <e9d7b19e-c31a-42ef-b5bb-f488e4390cef@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > because I've had very much the same desire, but never found an answer. > So far I haven't seen one here either. :-( What is your goal? 1. Privacy 2. Prevent burn-in 3. Save energy 1 and 2 can be accomplished by setting a hot corner for the screen saver. All three can be accomplished by turning off the display, unless you happen to have one of those fancy all-in-one iMac thingies. :) SignatureJim Gibson > In article <1i8afc3.1drz0k61oxdk4pN%nos...@see.signature>, Richard > [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** > ---------------------------------------------------------- I have one of those "all-in-one imac thingies". As I specified in the original post. My goal is to turn of the screen because A) it's in my bedroom and B) I want it to run as a server, so when I leave the house, I want the mac to stay on and the screen to go off. (Not be on for another hour and then off. Off right now.) In article <8ace047e-7555-470e-ad06-5420f3b021c1@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, > I have one of those "all-in-one imac thingies". As I specified in the > original post. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > mac to stay on and the screen to go off. (Not be on for another hour > and then off. Off right now.) Sorry about the confusion, but I was responding to Richard, who didn't specify which model of Mac he has but wanted a similar capability to what you want. SignatureJim Gibson > In article > <8ace047e-7555-470e-ad06-5420f3b02...@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** > ---------------------------------------------------------- yep, apologies, > > In article > > <8ace047e-7555-470e-ad06-5420f3b02...@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > specify which model of Mac he has but wanted a similar capability to > > what you want. > yep, apologies, Sorrry I didn't specify the details. I was just chiming in because it sounded like I had exactly the same situation as the OP, so I didn't bother to repeat the details. I also have "one of those all-in-one iMac thingies" and mostly, I like it a lot. I also happen to have a second monitor attached to it, but that part is easy; I just turn off the second monitor. I can't so easily turn off the integrated iMac monitor without turning off the iMac, which I don't want to do because sometimes there are long tasks running (backups, long downloads, number-crunching, server functions, whatever). My biggest treason for interest is the energy saving, with secondary interest in screen life, and tertiarily, even though this thing isn't in my bedroom, the otherwise nice bright screen does light up a big chunk of the house at night. P.S. For some reason, Gibson's posts haven't (yet?) made it to my newsserver, so I don't directly see them in the original, but I can see the quoted parts. SignatureRichard Maine | Good judgement comes from experience; email: last name at domain . net | experience comes from bad judgement. domain: summertriangle | -- Mark Twain > Yes, I've seen that. But it doesn't answer the same need. It is quite > common for me to be leaving the computer for a while and want to put > the display (but not the computer) to sleep *RIGHT NOW*, on command - > not after some delay. Open the Desktop and Screen Saver preferences and click on the Screen Saver tab. Click on the Hot Corners... button in the bottom left of the preferences window. In the sheet that drops down, decided which corner of the monitor you want to use to put the display to sleep. Pull down the popup menu for that corner. Choose "Sleep Display" from that menu. Click OK in the sheet and close the preferences. SignatureSupport the troops: Bring them home ASAP. > > Yes, I've seen that. But it doesn't answer the same need. It is quite > > common for me to be leaving the computer for a while and want to put > > the display (but not the computer) to sleep *RIGHT NOW*, on command - > > not after some delay. > > [detailed instructions on using "Hot Corners" for this] Thanks. It wouldn't have occurred to me to look there. That might work ok for me. It isn't what I'd call the cleanest way to interface such functionality. I long ago turned hot corners off on my Mac because I kept hitting them by accident and having "strange" things happen unexpectedly. I'd like a "nicer" answer, but this does seem better than any others I've seen. I'll try this for a while to see how I like it, selecting the corner I think I'm least likely to hit by accident. Obviously the core functionality is there; it just could use a handier interface. SignatureRichard Maine | Good judgement comes from experience; email: last name at domain . net | experience comes from bad judgement. domain: summertriangle | -- Mark Twain > I have a new imac. How do I turn off the screen but leave the > computer on. Not sleeping. On. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Running leopard btw. I'm using 10.4 but it can't have changed drastically.... In system preferences under energy saver there should be an option to set the display to sleep after a certain time of inactivity. Trial and error will tell you what is not an annoying time to set. I don't know of any way to make this happen on demand, but that might be just as good, depending on what you want to achieve. If it's just to make the screen last longer that should do it. Usually the best way to identify your machine is via the model name, processor name and speed. e.g for this one iMac intel core2 Duo 2.16. That will be under 'about this Mac in the apple menu. Andy > I don't know of any way to make this happen on demand, but that might be > just as good, depending on what you want to achieve. I don't know about the OP, but that is not good enough for me. My daughter's iMac is in her bedroom, and there I times when she (my daughter, not the iMac) is sleeping that I wish to access it remotely. I've set a hot corner for sleep display as work-around, but I really would prefer to be able to do it from her account without having to mess with her hot corner settings. -j SignatureJeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ I rarely read top-posted, over-quoting or HTML postings. http://improve-usenet.org/ > In <fikki7$m5...@aioe.org>, nospamatall wrote: > > I don't know of any way to make this happen on demand, but that might be [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > I rarely read top-posted, over-quoting or HTML postings. > http://improve-usenet.org/ Yep, I have the same motive, plus I want the screen off so I can leave it running as a server and connect to it over VNC remotely. In which case, I want it to turn off "right now" rather than in an hour which is what I have the screensaver set to. On Nov 28, 3:16 pm, dterr...@hotmail.com wrote: > > In <fikki7$m5...@aioe.org>, nospamatall wrote: > > > I don't know of any way to make this happen on demand, but that might be [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > case, I want it to turn off "right now" rather than in an hour which > is what I have the screensaver set to. I had a motive similar to yours but never did find a good solution. The interim solution, and I realize it's gonna come across as flippant, was to cover the screen with a heavy wool throw when I felt like going to bed. In my case the goal was to feed the house network, which was then wired through my bedroom cable modem & my iMac G5. Switching the network to wireless & using an AirPort finally gave me what I wanted. If price is no object, you might consider another Mac, dedicated to server functions. It could run "headless" either with no monitor or with an external monitor turned off. Older G4 desktops are dirt cheap (IMO) and should make excellent home file servers. > On Nov 28, 3:16 pm, dterr...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > with an external monitor turned off. Older G4 desktops are dirt cheap > (IMO) and should make excellent home file servers. Yea thanks, but the goal is also to reduce power consumption- most of the power consumption of a mac (well, at least with a PC I know for sure), is from the monitor. To give an example, I've got a home linux server that runs a low-power intel chip, and the whole thing (no monitor of course), idles at 41 watts. In article <231e653d-729c-4513-a550-4a84129d6daf@r60g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, > Yea thanks, but the goal is also to reduce power consumption- most of > the power consumption of a mac (well, at least with a PC I know for > sure), is from the monitor. Apple doesn't publish (that I could find) the minimum power expenditure, but the maximum continuous power of the 20" iMac is 200W. The maximum power consumption of Apple's 20" monitor is 65W. SignatureSupport the troops: Bring them home ASAP. > In article > <231e653d-729c-4513-a550-4a84129d6...@r60g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > -- > Support the troops: Bring them home ASAP. Right- absolutely the *maximum* power consumption of the rest of the imac will be well more than the monitor. However- to achieve that level of power consumption you have to be maxing that f.cker out. Cpu at 100%, hard drive crunching, usb devices sucking on all ports all at once, graphics card playing Doom 3 in two windows at once, downloading files, bang on the keyboard, go to town. Idle is another story. As is "typical" use. The same is true on PC of course- pc's have like 500w PSU's these days, but that's only to accomodate a theoretical spike. (And spikes never really get near that anyways, unless your tomshardware.com doing crazy sh.t.) If the monitor is consuming 65w, that's probably more than the cpu idles (or typicals) at, which only has one internal drive. In article <4fede671-8700-4073-a2b4-7577282e7f7f@j44g2000hsj.googlegroups.com>, > On Nov 28, 3:16 pm, dterr...@hotmail.com wrote: > > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > with an external monitor turned off. Older G4 desktops are dirt cheap > (IMO) and should make excellent home file servers. You can always script pmset (see man pmset) to toggle the displaysleep interval between 1 minute and some value that suits your workstyle. For remote users, the script could be triggered via ssh. SignatureTom Stiller PGP fingerprint = 5108 DDB2 9761 EDE5 E7E3 7BDA 71ED 6496 99C0 C7CF > I have a new imac. How do I turn off the screen but leave the > computer on. Not sleeping. On. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Running leopard btw. I'm not a Mac right now, but I believe there is a screen dimming setting that is independent of sleep. It should be in the System Preferences under "Energy Saver", I think. In article <e9d7b19e-c31a-42ef-b5bb-f488e4390cef@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, > I have a new imac. How do I turn off the screen but leave the > computer on. Not sleeping. On. I have a similar need. 1) Energy Saver... Sleep Display after ___ minutes. I hate this. 2) Hot Corner to Sleep Display. Works quite well for me. 3) Use the function keys to dim the display to black (but remember when you return to the machine to use the funciton keys to brighten the display. Danger of you or daughter trying everything else and giving up on the "broken" Mac. Happened to a friend.) -- Sally SignatureSally Shears (a.k.a. "Molly") SallyShears@gmail.com -or- Sally@Shears.org SallyShears (at) gmail (dot) com > I have a new imac. How do I turn off the screen but leave the > computer on. Not sleeping. On. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Running leopard btw. Dockables <http://cocoaapp.com/products/dockables/> has 'Sleep Display'. It does just what you want :-) Regards, Jamie Kahn Genet SignatureIf you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate. > > I have a new imac. How do I turn off the screen but leave the > > computer on. Not sleeping. On. > Dockables <http://cocoaapp.com/products/dockables/> has 'Sleep Display'. > It does just what you want :-) Indeed it does, at least what I want, which appears to be the same thing as the OP. Much nicer than the hot corners solution. Thanks. SignatureRichard Maine | Good judgement comes from experience; email: last name at domain . net | experience comes from bad judgement. domain: summertriangle | -- Mark Twain > > > I have a new imac. How do I turn off the screen but leave the > > > computer on. Not sleeping. On. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Indeed it does, at least what I want, which appears to be the same thing > as the OP. Much nicer than the hot corners solution. Thanks. NP :-) Happy I could be of assistance. Regards, Jamie Kahn Genet SignatureIf you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate. |
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