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Mac Forum / General / General / September 2006Xcode
Hello, I am looking for a decent book that can ease me in quickly with Xcode, I've been to some of the ADC Forums and found some decent material, but instead of printing up everything I'd like to be able to get a good book that has plenty of content to show me how to deal with OOC and the interface builder. Its no so much the languages I am worried about, I'd just like a good GUI primer. Thanks. > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Thanks. For Xcode specifically, it's hard to beat "Step Into Xcode", by Fritz Anderson. However since I'm not sure what OOC stands for, I could be missing something here.  SignatureTom "Tom" Harrington MondoMouse makes your mouse mightier See http://www.atomicbird.com/mondomouse/ OOC = Object Oriented C Kinda like OOP =) > > Hello, > > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > MondoMouse makes your mouse mightier > See http://www.atomicbird.com/mondomouse/ > OOC = Object Oriented C Is Apple trying to avoid saying "Objective-C" and making everybody cringe? That's a nice spin attempt. Xcode is NOT fun. Good luck! > Kinda like OOP =) > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > MondoMouse makes your mouse mightier > > See http://www.atomicbird.com/mondomouse/ In article <mcmurtri-B140B8.22325927092006@sn-radius.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>, > > OOC = Object Oriented C > > Is Apple trying to avoid saying "Objective-C" and making everybody > cringe? That's a nice spin attempt. There could be some truth in that, as when I see "Objective-C" I always want to pronounce it "Objectionable-C" :-) SignaturePaul Sture In article <paul.sture.nospam-7831A2.08363028092006@mac.sture.homeip.net>, > In article > <mcmurtri-B140B8.22325927092006@sn-radius.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > There could be some truth in that, as when I see "Objective-C" I always > want to pronounce it "Objectionable-C" :-) Pronounce it however you like, but Objective C is a great language. :-) SignatureTom "Tom" Harrington MondoMouse makes your mouse mightier See http://www.atomicbird.com/mondomouse/ > In article > <paul.sture.nospam-7831A2.08363028092006@mac.sture.homeip.net>, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Pronounce it however you like, but Objective C is a great language. :-) I'm not saying it's bad. I makes people cringe because it's rare outside of OS X. Most business find that the Mac market is not large enough to justify creating another codebase. As for Xcode - Yes, it's really that bad. I've used Think C, Think Pascal, all the Mac versions of CodeWarrior, Eclipse 1.x through 3.x, and Xcode. Xcode is the least efficient IDE for commercial development. CodeSense is a joke and you're lucky if the compile error markers are even in the right window. Forget about any complex code generation, refactoring, or searching that requires interpretation of source code. In article <mcmurtri-B7EBFB.23270828092006@sn-radius.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>, > As for Xcode - Yes, it's really that bad. I've used Think C, Think > Pascal, all the Mac versions of CodeWarrior, Eclipse 1.x through 3.x, > and Xcode. Xcode is the least efficient IDE for commercial development. > CodeSense is a joke and you're lucky if the compile error markers are > even in the right window. I won't claim that this hasn't happened to you, however Xcode seems to work much better for me than for you. CodeSense and compile errors in particular seem to work quite well. SignatureTom "Tom" Harrington MondoMouse makes your mouse mightier See http://www.atomicbird.com/mondomouse/ In article <mcmurtri-B140B8.22325927092006@sn-radius.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>, > > OOC = Object Oriented C > > Is Apple trying to avoid saying "Objective-C" and making everybody > cringe? That's a nice spin attempt. No. It's the original poster inventing his own terminology. But there's no reason any rational person would cringe at a mention of Objective-C. > Xcode is NOT fun. Good luck! Fun is subjective. A less subjective statement is XCode is not Objective-C, so I wonder how you jumped rails like that. G SignatureWhat I write is what I mean. I request that anyone who decides to respond please refrain from "disagreeing" with something I didn't write in the first place. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OOC: Object Oriented Code > OOC = Object Oriented C > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > MondoMouse makes your mouse mightier > > See http://www.atomicbird.com/mondomouse/ SignatureHans Aberg > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Its no so much the languages I am worried about, I'd just like a good > GUI primer. It's pretty hard to beat Xcode's own user documentation. The problem with books is that they're out of date so quickly. In Xcode, go to the "help" menu, and select "Xcode help". It will start at the "Introduction to Xcode" page. -jcr As a quick introduction, "Beginning Mac OS X Programming" by Michael Trent and Drew McCormack is great. It covers the basics of Developer Tools, Xcode, Interface Builder, C, Objective C, Cocoa, Carbon, Bash and AppleScript. Obviously you'll need a book on each of these if you want to go into more detail, but it's enough to get you started. Karen -- remove underscore and nine from my email address As a quick introduction, "Beginning Mac OS X Programming" by Michael Trent and Drew McCormack is great. It covers the basics of Developer Tools, Xcode, Interface Builder, C, Objective C, Cocoa, Carbon, Bash and AppleScript. Obviously you'll need a book on each of these if you want to go into more detail, but it's enough to get you started. Karen Signatureremove underscore and nine from my email address > As a quick introduction, "Beginning Mac OS X Programming" by Michael > Trent and Drew McCormack is great. It covers the basics of Developer > Tools, Xcode, Interface Builder, C, Objective C, Cocoa, Carbon, Bash and > AppleScript. Obviously you'll need a book on each of these if you want > to go into more detail, but it's enough to get you started. There's also "Become and Xcoder: Start Programming the Mac Using Objective-C" by Bert Altenburg, Alex Clarke and Philippe Mougin. It's available FREE from <http://www.cocoalab.com/cocoalab/developer.php> I wonder if you are really looking for a book on XCode or an introducory book on writing programs for Apple computers. Xcode is Apple's fancy name for their integrated development environment. Where as if you are looking for an introductory book for writing programs for OS X look for books with the word "Cocoa" in the name. All of the beginning to intermediate books on Cocoa provide adequate information on Apple's integrated development environment to enable you to write programs for OS X. Cocoa uses Ojective C, and two framworks, Foundation kit and Appkit, for building Cocoa applications. Howard > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Thanks. |
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