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Ian Robinson, Belfast, UK
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>> Not overheating though, and I've been blaming Skype since I usually
>> have the rest open.
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> is running at just under 6200 RPM. mdworker, mds and ATSServer are sucking a
> lot of CPU.
Yikes, that's *hot*. Do MacBooks and MacBook Pros get that hot too?
Cheers,
Chris
Ben Shimmin - 09 May 2008 21:20 GMT
Chris Ridd <chrisridd@mac.com>:
>>> Not overheating though, and I've been blaming Skype since I usually
>>> have the rest open.
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>
> Yikes, that's *hot*. Do MacBooks and MacBook Pros get that hot too?
My MacBook's CPU is currently at 57C and the exhaust fan is running at
1795rpm.
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Ian Robinson - 09 May 2008 21:44 GMT
> Yikes, that's *hot*. Do MacBooks and MacBook Pros get that hot too?
Something is not quite right with it. Was okay up until a few days ago. Just
stated the reinstall. It's sitting at the Language Choice screen and I can
hear the fan throttling back as ther are no processes running to heat it up.
I'm thinking of having another go with Mail instead of Entourage after this
rebuild. I use Numbers for my spreadsheet stuff now so don't need Excel on
the Mac. I will need to use Excel stuff that others send to me, and also
Word. Office 2003 or 7 in a VM would cover that...
Macbook Air is no completely silent. Fan throttled right back.
To answer your question. Yes, my MacBook Pro can get that hot. SMCFanControl
sorts it out though.
Ian

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Ian Robinson - 10 May 2008 20:26 GMT
> Something is not quite right with it. Was okay up until a few days ago. Just
> stated the reinstall. It's sitting at the Language Choice screen and I can
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> Macbook Air is no completely silent. Fan throttled right back.
So I've rebuilt the MBA. I didn't install Office 2008 but rather I'm having
another go with Mail.app instead of Entourage, Numbers instead of Excel 2008
(with Excel 2003 for Windows available in a VM when required). Not sure yet
what I'm going to do about Word 2008. I will have Word 2003 in a VM, but I'll
probably use BBedit to enter plain text and then format it in Word 2003 or
maybe Pages.
What's the compatibility like from Pages using the Word format export?
The latest version of Parallels is making the MBA a bit hot a present. It's
running Microsoft Update and installing XP SP3. the Exhaust fan is running at
6000+ RPM. CPU temp has settled around 65 to 70 C.
No kernel panics after the latest rebuild. Hopefully it'll behave itself for
a bit :-)
Ian

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Ian Robinson, Belfast, UK
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Pd - 10 May 2008 10:58 GMT
> > CPU temp (as reported by iStat Pro) is 70C (was a 82 a few minutes ago).
> > Exhaust Fan is running at just under 6200 RPM. mdworker, mds and
> > ATSServer are sucking a lot of CPU.
>
> Yikes, that's *hot*. Do MacBooks and MacBook Pros get that hot too?
My MBP fluctuates between 45 and 80 C depending on what it's doing.
Weirdly, the stuff that I would expect it to heat up with often doesn't,
and things I don't expect to heat the machine do. It seems that the
Graphics chip generates a lot more heat than the CPUs.

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Pd
Jaimie Vandenbergh - 10 May 2008 11:40 GMT
>> > CPU temp (as reported by iStat Pro) is 70C (was a 82 a few minutes ago).
>> > Exhaust Fan is running at just under 6200 RPM. mdworker, mds and
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>and things I don't expect to heat the machine do. It seems that the
>Graphics chip generates a lot more heat than the CPUs.
This is the general case. My CPUs throttle back at 80'C, while my GPU
is happy all the way up to 135'C (apparently). GPUs are far simpler
devices, and don't need to worry about single-bit errors in a lot of
their computation stages.
Cheers - Jaimie

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>> Not overheating though, and I've been blaming Skype since I usually
>> have the rest open.
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>is running at just under 6200 RPM. mdworker, mds and ATSServer are sucking a
>lot of CPU.
Blimey, that's warm. Mine is certainly software trouble, not heat.
You should probably wipe out the md database and rebuild it from
scratch, the excess CPU might be due to some confusion.
(unless this is the initial build after a fresh install, like you were
talking about before)
Cheers - Jaimie

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