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Interesting iPhone upgrade info from O2

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David Glover - 07 May 2008 13:47 GMT
This isn't at all new, but I've never really browsed around the O2
website before, so I've only just found it.

I was trying to figure out whether when the 3G iPhone comes out in
June (at least, June in the USA) whether you'll be able to upgrade
without renewing your O2 contract.

It *appears* that the answer is yes.

I base this on the following O2 page, which is about upgrading from
the 8GB to the 16GB iPhone:
http://www.o2.co.uk/iphone/o2tariffsforiphone/existingcustomers/activatingyourne
w16gbiphone


Basically it says that all you do is buy the new iPhone and slap in
your old SIM, and that's it. Done.

Also interesting is this page:
http://www.o2.co.uk/iphone/o2tariffsforiphone/existingcustomers
Which contains the following paragraph:
* Don't forget your existing 8GB iPhone can be given to someone else
you know --- all they need to do is either go to an O2 Retail store
and ask for a new PostPay O2 SIM card (free of charge), or simply use
the SIM card that comes with the 16GB iPhone. They then place the new
SIM card into the 8GB iPhone and activate through iTunes just as you
did. They will need to sign-up to a new 18-month contract.

So you can even sell your old iPhone to help fund a new one. SIMs are
pretty generic so the SIM that comes with a 3G iPhone will probably
work just fine in a 2G iPhone.
Woody - 07 May 2008 17:55 GMT
> Also interesting is this page:
> http://www.o2.co.uk/iphone/o2tariffsforiphone/existingcustomers
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> pretty generic so the SIM that comes with a 3G iPhone will probably
> work just fine in a 2G iPhone.

Yes. although don't expect much selling a second hand locked 8GB iPhone!

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DBSnappa - 07 May 2008 18:10 GMT
>> Also interesting is this page:
>> http://www.o2.co.uk/iphone/o2tariffsforiphone/existingcustomers
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>
> Yes. although don't expect much selling a second hand locked 8GB iPhone!

They're so easy to jailbreak (if I can do it, anybody can), why would
you not unlock it before selling it.
Ian McCall - 07 May 2008 21:45 GMT
> They're so easy to jailbreak

Is nobody -worried- by that fact? Everyone always applauds it, but it
means there are significant and easily found security holes in the
platform. Surely someone not especially friendly might be inclined to
have a crack as well? iPhone malware?

Cheers,
Ian
Woody - 07 May 2008 22:10 GMT
> > They're so easy to jailbreak
>
> Is nobody -worried- by that fact? Everyone always applauds it, but it
> means there are significant and easily found security holes in the
> platform. Surely someone not especially friendly might be inclined to
> have a crack as well? iPhone malware?

If you jailbreak it, it fixes the fault that lets it be broken.

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David Kennedy - 07 May 2008 22:16 GMT
>> They're so easy to jailbreak
>
> Is nobody -worried- by that fact? Everyone always applauds it, but it
> means there are significant and easily found security holes in the
> platform. Surely someone not especially friendly might be inclined to
> have a crack as well? iPhone malware?

Every phone - AFAIK - is the same; they can all be unlocked, some by
code some by hardware but there is always a way.
Ian McCall - 08 May 2008 00:48 GMT
>>> They're so easy to jailbreak
>>
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> Every phone - AFAIK - is the same; they can all be unlocked, some by
> code some by hardware but there is always a way.

But this is slightly different - unlocking from a network is one thing
and I expect most phones can be. It's part of their normal function to
be sold on different networks.

But here we're not just talking about unlocking. We're talking about
jailbreaking - the act of allowing the OS to do other than it is
designed to do. Which is good news for the end user, except that it's
arrived through by exploiting some security issue - and that has to be
bad news surely?

Cheers,
Ian
David Kennedy - 08 May 2008 07:19 GMT
>>>> They're so easy to jailbreak
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> and I expect most phones can be. It's part of their normal function to
> be sold on different networks.

And I suspect that there is the same facility with the iPhone. After
all, at the end of the contract it is required procedure that the phone
be unlocked if requested.

> But here we're not just talking about unlocking. We're talking about
> jailbreaking - the act of allowing the OS to do other than it is
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Cheers,
> Ian
Howard - 17 May 2008 17:57 GMT
> I was trying to figure out whether when the 3G iPhone comes out in
> June (at least, June in the USA)

Our O2 agent is telling us that it will be at least September....

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