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Mac Forum / Country Specific / UK Mac Group / May 2008The iPhone is dead, long live the iPhone
Sort of. According to The Register both O2 and Carphone Warehouse have sold out of 8Gb iPhones and that CW has also sold out of 16Gb iPhones. It looks as if Apple is clearing/has cleared stock in anticipation of sames of the 3G iPhone. The Register naughtiliy suggests that Apple are deliberately causing shortages, and subtle promotion of the new iPhone in order to create another headline grabbing feeding frenzy. http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/05/02/cw_iphone_elimination/ > Sort of. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/05/02/cw_iphone_elimination/ I guess they have taken the ide from car manufacturers - who do exaclty the same when they are about to release a new model - look how many 'face lifts' cars get these days. It's not a new practice.  SignatureClive We don't die, we just stop paying taxes. > > Sort of. > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > the same when they are about to release a new model - look how many > 'face lifts' cars get these days. It's not a new practice. They get far fewer face lifts than cars -or, American cars, at any rate, used to get in the '50s and '60s (growing up in Venezuela in those days, as a kid you would keep up with the changes in current models of those -European cars were sort of more remote, literally as well as figuratively speaking). They often looked completely different from one year to the next, yet they were pretty much the same car inside. That doesn't happen quite like that now. Signatureflavio matani guitar tuition homepage.mac.com/flavio_matani/guitar/ www.livejournal.com/users/flavius_m/ > Sort of. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/05/02/cw_iphone_elimination/ A 3G iPhone, especially one with built in GPS (real GPS, not the take a guess system in the current model) is a far more compelling device than the old iPhone is, and as I've got 6 months or so left on my current phone contract whatever is on the cards for the iPhone will be an option when the time to upgrade comes. But I'd still have real misgivings about switching to O2 for the iPhone. I quit O2 in the first place because the reception around here is horrid. Come on Apple, make the new iPhone network agnostic please! > > Sort of. > > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > misgivings about switching to O2 for the iPhone. I quit O2 in the > first place because the reception around here is horrid. sa's got the iphone now, and it is a lovely device, truelly groundbreaking. but O2 are sh.t. back in wales not a snifter of reception. put np7/8/23 into the coverage and apparently it's good. 99% indeed. okay clydach gorge isn't good for radio be that tv, radio 4 phones etc. being a gorge but every other network has at least a flicking reception, or at least it's not dead over the whole area. in fairness t-mob isn't great there either. voda's okay but orange tends to be the king though does depend where you go... > Come on Apple, make the new iPhone network agnostic please! heh, iphone on t-mobs package on orange would be prefect here, or rather to the places we go. here being sw london ish all networks work. not going to happen though, mind you what happens when the contract runs out could one not legally ask for the iphone to be unlocked? roger Signaturewww.rogermerriman.com > not going to happen though, mind you what happens when the contract runs > out could one not legally ask for the iphone to be unlocked? I think you're right on that one.. not going to happen. Not yet, at any rate... On the second point, that is a very interesting one. I s'pose the networks might agree to unlock it for a fee as they do now, but -are they able and allowed to do it, or is it up to Apple? Hm, interesting... Signatureflavio matani guitar tuition homepage.mac.com/flavio_matani/guitar/ www.livejournal.com/users/flavius_m/ > not going to happen though, mind you what happens when the contract runs > out could one not legally ask for the iphone to be unlocked? Most companies will unlock after the first year and although, AFAIK, no one yet has reported having an unlocked iPhone there must legally be a facility in place to allow this. It will be interesting to see how that affects the market in resales, will an officially unlocked or SIM free iPhone sell for more than one which has been jailbroken? I suspect it will if you can get all the updates without going through the previous hassles. David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamformethanksverymuchyoubastards.invalid> wrote: > > not going to happen though, mind you what happens when the contract runs > > out could one not legally ask for the iphone to be unlocked? > > Most companies will unlock after the first year and although, AFAIK, no > one yet has reported having an unlocked iPhone there must legally be a > facility in place to allow this. i assume the iphone isn't old enought yet, their maybe some weasling or attempting by saying that foo network is the only one that supports the iphone... > It will be interesting to see how that affects the market in resales, > will an officially unlocked or SIM free iPhone sell for more than one > which has been jailbroken? I suspect it will if you can get all the > updates without going through the previous hassles. indeed and what the new one is, why would O2 spend all that money on EDGE if the 3G iphone comes out now? seems a bit of waste. sa is very happy with the iphone, for me i attually like the nokia 770 + some 3G phone. roger Signaturewww.rogermerriman.com >for me i attually like the nokia 770 + some 3G phone. Which reminds me that I'm going to be extremely pissed off if the iPhone2 doesn't have a bluetoothable modem access in it. Cheers - Jaimie SignatureIt's time to light the candles! It's time to chant the rites! It's time to summon Satan on the Muppet Show tonight! > >for me i attually like the nokia 770 + some 3G phone. > > Which reminds me that I'm going to be extremely pissed off if the > iPhone2 doesn't have a bluetoothable modem access in it. > > Cheers - Jaimie i can't see apple doing that after all iphone has safari etc. i don't think they see it as such a device, hell it doesn't have copy/paste roger Signaturewww.rogermerriman.com >> >for me i attually like the nokia 770 + some 3G phone. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >i can't see apple doing that after all iphone has safari etc. i don't >think they see it as such a device, hell it doesn't have copy/paste Oh, I know. But it's the only thing that I resent about the iPhone, so I'll still be pissed off! Cheers - Jaimie Signaturepanic("Foooooooood fight!"); -- /usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi/aha1542.c > >> >for me i attually like the nokia 770 + some 3G phone. > >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Cheers - Jaimie heh! roger Signaturewww.rogermerriman.com > > Sort of. > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Come on Apple, make the new iPhone network agnostic please! What's the reason not to make it network agnostic? I can understand in the early days they might want to work with one network until any technical issues are worked out or to control demand. But they must realise they are missing out on a huge number of potential customers from other networks. I would get one tomorrow if it t-mobile offered it. (I don't want a jail-broken or unofficially unlocked one). >> A 3G iPhone, especially one with built in GPS (real GPS, not the take >> a guess system in the current model) is a far more compelling device [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >from other networks. I would get one tomorrow if it t-mobile offered >it. (I don't want a jail-broken or unofficially unlocked one). One financial reason: Apple used exclusivity deals to persuade AT&T/O2 to share the profits of the contract with Apple. One technical reason: visual voicemail which needs network support. Cheers - Jaimie SignatureActually, the Singularity seems rather useful in the entire work avoidance field. "I _could_ write up that report now but if I put it off, I may well become a weakly godlike entity, at which point not only will I be able to type faster but my comments will be more on-target." - James Nicoll In article <2tg3245e78l98sh6929bk92g5f8si1v55n@newsposting.sessile.org>, > One technical reason: visual voicemail which needs network support. ...and is very yummy indeed. SignatureSara The teeth are free at last! Fly free, young teethies! |
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