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The £169 iPhone deal has worked in my office. Several people (all techies) have bought the 8GB models and unlocked them with ZiPhone. There were 3 on Monday :-) At least one of them is now talking about a MacBook Pro. The only problem is that everyone uses the Old Ring tone, which is confusing! Ian  SignatureIan Robinson, Belfast, UK <http://www.canicula.com/wp/> > The £169 iPhone deal has worked in my office. Several people (all techies) > have bought the 8GB models and unlocked them with ZiPhone. There were 3 on > Monday :-) At least one of them is now talking about a MacBook Pro. > > The only problem is that everyone uses the Old Ring tone, which is confusing! > Ian I bought one and know three other people who bought one last week. I used pwnage to unlock mine, which is apparently (I say this as I'm not a techie really - compared to all you huge nerds, I'm a small nerd ;)) more stable and easier to use than ZiPhone and even iLiberty. It is a thing of beauty and with the earbuds you can still gaze at it adoringly when you're talking on it :D > It is a thing of beauty and with the earbuds you can still gaze at it > adoringly when you're talking on it :D :-D Ian SignatureIan Robinson, Belfast, UK <http://www.canicula.com/wp/> >> The £169 iPhone deal has worked in my office. Several people (all >> techies) have bought the 8GB models and unlocked them with ZiPhone. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > It is a thing of beauty and with the earbuds you can still gaze at it > adoringly when you're talking on it :D I assume we all saw the story earlier this week that Apple have arranged production contracts for "up to" 25 million of the iPhone MkII > I assume we all saw the story earlier this week that Apple have arranged > production contracts for "up to" 25 million of the iPhone MkII It's the lower cost that is making people jump on board now. the MKII will likely be up in the £250 and up range. Does anyone know if a PAYG Orange Sim will work in a jailbroken iPhone? Will it get email over GPRS on that set-up? Thinking of getting on for my sister. Ian SignatureIan Robinson, Belfast, UK <http://www.canicula.com/wp/> >> I assume we all saw the story earlier this week that Apple have arranged >> production contracts for "up to" 25 million of the iPhone MkII [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Does anyone know if a PAYG Orange Sim will work in a jailbroken iPhone? Will > it get email over GPRS on that set-up? Thinking of getting on for my sister. I think the sim will work fine, not sure about the email though. Try the hackintosh forum? >> I assume we all saw the story earlier this week that Apple have arranged >> production contracts for "up to" 25 million of the iPhone MkII > > It's the lower cost that is making people jump on board now. the MKII will > likely be up in the £250 and up range. My prediction is that you'll have the option of buying the new iPhone SIM Free /or/ tied to O2. The SIM free version will be around the £250 mark, maybe a bit more, and the O2 one will cost considerably less. >>> I assume we all saw the story earlier this week that Apple have arranged >>> production contracts for "up to" 25 million of the iPhone MkII [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >SIM Free /or/ tied to O2. The SIM free version will be around the £250 >mark, maybe a bit more, and the O2 one will cost considerably less. If that comes to pass, it'll be more like £400 sim free (see Nokia N95 prices, and also iPod Touch prices + at least £100) and the same old £270 with O2 - or maybe £299 to start with. I'll be happy to be wrong, of course. Cheers - Jaimie SignatureThere are no normal people--only people you don't know very much about. -- Nancy Lebovitz, rasfw >>>> I assume we all saw the story earlier this week that Apple have arranged >>>> production contracts for "up to" 25 million of the iPhone MkII [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > I'll be happy to be wrong, of course. So will I ;-) Unfortunately I think it will be closer to £400 sim free. >> I assume we all saw the story earlier this week that Apple have arranged >> production contracts for "up to" 25 million of the iPhone MkII > > It's the lower cost that is making people jump on board now. the MKII will > likely be up in the £250 and up range. Oh I agree, and, likely to get lower once the new one arrives - 16 gig iPhone for 99 quid anyone? In article <rtadnXqP8pbFm4bVnZ2dnUVZ8vCdnZ2d@plusnet>, David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamformethanksverymuchyoubastards.invalid> wrote: > >> I assume we all saw the story earlier this week that Apple have arranged > >> production contracts for "up to" 25 million of the iPhone MkII [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Oh I agree, and, likely to get lower once the new one arrives - 16 gig > iPhone for 99 quid anyone? howl. SignatureSara The teeth are free at last! Fly free, young teethies! > In article <rtadnXqP8pbFm4bVnZ2dnUVZ8vCdnZ2d@plusnet>, > David Kennedy [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > howl. YeahBut, you'ld have to wait another two months... >>> I assume we all saw the story earlier this week that Apple have arranged >>> production contracts for "up to" 25 million of the iPhone MkII [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Oh I agree, and, likely to get lower once the new one arrives - 16 gig >iPhone for 99 quid anyone? Given that Carphone Warehouse have apparently completely sold out of both models now, it seems unlikely they'll restock. Apple are always good at running stock down two days before a refresh. So that just leaves O2 shops, doesn't it? And the Apple Refurb store, which has started showing iPhones in the categories, I see. Cheers - Jaimie SignatureBeer has food value, but food has no beer value. > Does anyone know if a PAYG Orange Sim will work in a jailbroken iPhone? Will > it get email over GPRS on that set-up? Thinking of getting on for my sister. Yes it will. However, it's wickedly expensive to even go near GPRS. I downloaded about half a dozen web pages last week, and chewed up my entire £20 balance. MST > However, it's wickedly expensive to even go near GPRS. I downloaded about > half a dozen web pages last week, and chewed up my entire £20 balance. Yikes. Thanks for that. I'd already decided not to get her an iPhone but it's good to know that info for the future. Ian SignatureIan Robinson, Belfast, UK <http://www.canicula.com/wp/> > > Does anyone know if a PAYG Orange Sim will work in a jailbroken iPhone? > > Will [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > However, it's wickedly expensive to even go near GPRS. I downloaded about > half a dozen web pages last week, and chewed up my entire £20 balance. You should be able to set up Orange World <URL:http://www1.orange.co.uk/entertainment/OrangeWorld/OrangeWorldCosts. php> to cap your expenditure by day or week. Other PAYG providers who offer data bundles can work out cheaper, though. See also: -------------------8<------------------ 3. The Offer is subject to a fair usage level of 25Mb per day and is not to be used for other activities such as, non-Orange internet based streaming services, voice or video over the internet, instant messaging, peer to peer file sharing, non-Orange internet based video. Should you exceed this limit or if such use is detected, notice may be given and Network protection controls may be applied to all services which Orange does not believe constitutes mobile browsing. This may result in, at Orange's discretion, your inability to purchase the Offer, a reduced speed of transmission, suspension of data browsing services and/or suspension of your account. ------------------->8------------------ SignatureAndy Wingate <URL:http://www.sparse.net> I'm not nearly as think as you confused I am. >> However, it's wickedly expensive to even go near GPRS. I downloaded about >> half a dozen web pages last week, and chewed up my entire £20 balance. > > You should be able to set up Orange World > <URL:http://www1.orange.co.uk/entertainment/OrangeWorld/OrangeWorldCosts. > php> to cap your expenditure by day or week. I shall try that later in the week. Would anyone consider a sweepstake on how long it takes me to set it up? I'd put my money on around 45 - 60 minutes, judging from past experiences with Orange. I'll annotate the expected saga, and report back. > Other PAYG providers who > offer data bundles can work out cheaper, though. But other PAYG providers won't connect to the internet via an iPhone. At least, O2 won't. MST >> You should be able to set up Orange World >> <URL:http://www1.orange.co.uk/entertainment/OrangeWorld/OrangeWorldCosts. >> php> to cap your expenditure by day or week. > > I shall try that later in the week. Would anyone consider a sweepstake on how > long it takes me to set it up? I'd put my money on around 45 - 60 minutes, > judging from past experiences with Orange. > > I'll annotate the expected saga, and report back. Right, here we go. The quoted URL offers: > £1 bundle, for all day mobile access > £2.00 daily capped rate, so you never pay more than this a day > £5 for a week of anytime mobile internet access The second of these looks like what I want, so I set the stopwatch, and we're off. 28 minutes later, I still have no 'Browsing Bundle' nor any idea how I can get the £2 daily capped rate For anyone who can be bothered, here's the transcript of how I've just spent 28 minutes. Cheers, MST ---------------------------------------------- Web page says click on house¹ symbol. No house¹ symbol to click on, as requested, so I click on your account¹ to log on. Website won't accept my password. Try to reset password. Tell Orange my phone number, and get security code texted back by return. Orange won¹t let me change password, as chosen new password is same as old one. Log in using old password, successfully this time. Sorry, service temporarily unavailable. Try later.¹ But I haven¹t requested a service. Nevertheless, I am now apparently logged in. Nowhere to buy a Browsing Bundle. Try change my details¹. No good. Help and support¹? List of FAQs. Try Orange online¹. No, this is about administering my account on line. Try Find out about 3G¹. Ah, this seems to be it. But no ³Click on the house¹ symbol². But there¹s no house¹ symbol. Try a different browser, Firefox. No better. 10 minutes in. Okay, try phoning them up. 450 from landline. Oops, from mobile. Press 3 Press 2 Press 1 (change animal package) Press * (don¹t want to change calling package) Press 3 Press 1 Press 1 Can¹t find anything I need. Can¹t get to talk to a person. 17 minutes in. Bit more random clicking on Orange site. Eventually find http://www1.orange.co.uk/service_plans/payasyougo/extra_other.html This tells me to dial 450, so I try again. Press 3 Press 1 Press 1 Press 1 to hear details of great access to Orange World¹. Ah, that¹s how I access Browsing Bundles. Two options are available, but not a cap of £2 daily, which is what I want. Press 2 to cancel. 23 minutes in. A bit more random web browsing tells me to dial 150 from mobile. Dial 150 in hope that this will connect me to a real person, but calls immediately terminated. 25 minutes in. Bit more web browsing, but nothing useful found, nor any way to talk to a human being, or any reasonable facsimile of one. 28 minutes. Still not got what I want. Give up. >> I assume we all saw the story earlier this week that Apple have arranged >> production contracts for "up to" 25 million of the iPhone MkII > > It's the lower cost that is making people jump on board now. the MKII will > likely be up in the £250 and up range. I bought mine (Ziphoned to Orange) at £270 and think it is good value at that higher price. At £170 it's a steal - if you can find one! > Does anyone know if a PAYG Orange Sim will work in a jailbroken iPhone? Will > it get email over GPRS on that set-up? Thinking of getting on for my sister. > > Ian Signatureregards hugh hugh at clarity point uk point co (by the sea) (using Hogwasher) Time for a new .sig tagline >>> I assume we all saw the story earlier this week that Apple have arranged >>> production contracts for "up to" 25 million of the iPhone MkII [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >I bought mine (Ziphoned to Orange) at £270 and think it is good value at that >higher price. At £170 it's a steal - if you can find one! There'll be a flood of them second hand in the near future... Cheers - Jaimie SignatureYou are standing at the gate to Gehennom. --more-- Unspeakable cruelty and harm lurk down there. --more-- Are you sure you want to go in there? y So be it. You fall down the stairs. -- Nethack 3.31 >>> The £169 iPhone deal has worked in my office. Several people (all >>> techies) have bought the 8GB models and unlocked them with ZiPhone. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > I assume we all saw the story earlier this week that Apple have arranged > production contracts for "up to" 25 million of the iPhone MkII Yes. The thing is I always thought I would wait for v.2 but it was a combination of vouchers I suddenly acquired that were eligible for use in CPW, and the fact that I could get reasonably good money for my loathed k850i. Then tech lust took over. I don't regret it at all. It really is a fantastic piece of kit that does more than I want and definitely more than I really need. I love it ;) Also, the 3G and alleged GPS though nice is more than I need. I wonder what Apple are going to do with the new one. I've heard that it didn't sell as well as expected in Europe and that I assumed was largely down to the contract tie in allied to the purchase price. Which may explain CPW and O2s decision to unstuff the channel prior to the new one dropping. They sold out in a week. If it was cheaper on the contract, or could be bought for less (like what just happened with the 8Gb) and used on any network, I think it would sell like hot cakes. > The £169 iPhone deal has worked in my office. Several people (all techies) > have bought the 8GB models and unlocked them with ZiPhone. There were 3 on [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Ian Robinson, Belfast, UK > <http://www.canicula.com/wp/> Marimba? > The £169 iPhone deal has worked in my office. Several people (all techies) > have bought the 8GB models and unlocked them with ZiPhone. There were 3 on > Monday :-) At least one of them is now talking about a MacBook Pro. I was always puzzled as to why I didn't see more 'in the wild'. This week however, I've been sat next to 2 on the train. The price is definitely the catalyst - £169 isn't a lot of money, whereas £270 is. IYSWIM. I am surprised though, that people are buying them (one assumes) knowing that there is a new version coming out in a month. I'm planning to get the new one when available and attempt to buy-off Mrs Thom with my current iPhone. Thom > The price is definitely the catalyst - £169 isn't a lot of money, > whereas £270 is. IYSWIM. > > I am surprised though, that people are buying them (one assumes) > knowing that there is a new version coming out in a month. You've answered your own question in the previous paragraph. Ian SignatureIan Robinson, Belfast, UK <http://www.canicula.com/wp/> >> The price is definitely the catalyst - £169 isn't a lot of money, >> whereas £270 is. IYSWIM. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > You've answered your own question in the previous paragraph. You aren't wrong. You know, if I could join-up my thinking, I'm sure I'd be a millionaire by this time next year. Thom >>> The price is definitely the catalyst - £169 isn't a lot of money, >>> whereas £270 is. IYSWIM. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > You know, if I could join-up my thinking, I'm sure I'd be a millionaire > by this time next year. I'm kinda hoping that there will be a lot of people out there (who am I kidding, it'll be most of the people) who don't know the difference between one model from another, they just get tempted by the fact that it'll run on any network and the massively inflated ebay market for chipped phones will still be around[1] so that if needs be I can flog mine and get a v2 model without it costing me an arm and a leg. Having said all that, I don't really need the bandwidth that 3g offers, so it's a bit of a moot point. [1] I know a guy who runs a local restaurant I frequent who was proudly showing off his chipped 16Gb iPhone a couple of weeks ago which he paid £500 for!!!! > Having said all that, I don't really need the bandwidth that 3g offers, > so it's a bit of a moot point. I want at least 32GB of storage before I upgrade. 64GB would be even better. Ian SignatureIan Robinson, Belfast, UK <http://www.canicula.com/wp/> >> Having said all that, I don't really need the bandwidth that 3g offers, >> so it's a bit of a moot point. > > I want at least 32GB of storage before I upgrade. 64GB would be even better. It would be nice, however, I rarely commute by public transport so the need to carry all of my music or hours of video files with me everywhere I go isn't an issue. Hell, I've never even put a video on it and tbh I don't know how or what I would need to do to encode it. >>> Having said all that, I don't really need the bandwidth that 3g offers, >>> so it's a bit of a moot point. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >I go isn't an issue. Hell, I've never even put a video on it and tbh I >don't know how or what I would need to do to encode it. iSquint is relatively clean and simple, in case you're ever tempted (or want it as a tech demo to impress friends). The 8gig in my iPhone is roughly enough, to be honest. I'd rather have more, but I just know it would end up full of cruft rather than forcing me to pick and choose. Anything between the current 8gig and "enough to hold my complete music collection plus a few gig for pics and the odd video" would be rather wasted because of that. Cheers - Jaimie SignatureAmbiguity Man Strikes Again! (...or /does/ he?) -- Eric Schwartz, asr >>>> Having said all that, I don't really need the bandwidth that 3g offers, >>>> so it's a bit of a moot point. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Cheers - Jaimie I'll look into that, thanks Jaime. > >> Having said all that, I don't really need the bandwidth that 3g offers, > >> so it's a bit of a moot point. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I go isn't an issue. Hell, I've never even put a video on it and tbh I > don't know how or what I would need to do to encode it. i used to carry all my music etc, but i don't lisen to it, i lisen to podcasts and audio books. so when my last ipod died i got a 2G ipod shuffle it's small and carries all i need, no want. roger Signaturewww.rogermerriman.com > > >> Having said all that, I don't really need the bandwidth that 3g offers, > > >> so it's a bit of a moot point. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > podcasts and audio books. so when my last ipod died i got a 2G ipod > shuffle it's small and carries all i need, no want. No you didn't. You got a 2G iPod NANO. kisses. SignatureSara The teeth are free at last! Fly free, young teethies! > > > >> Having said all that, I don't really need the bandwidth that 3g offers, > > > >> so it's a bit of a moot point. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > > No you didn't. You got a 2G iPod NANO. kisses. oops so i did! roger Signaturewww.rogermerriman.com |
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