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Mac Forum / Country Specific / UK Mac Group / March 200810.5.2 crashing bastard hard...
Annoy else had Leopard lookup completely solid after the mdworker and SystemUI Server seem to crash the machine? This has happened twice in the last 2 days -which is disappointing as one of the reasons I moved to Leopard was in the hope that my MBP would become as reliable as the old TiBook was. I have trashed DivX. As a general comment - is it me, or are Intel machine more prone to freezing especially when entering or leaving sleep. > Annoy else had Leopard lookup completely solid after the mdworker and > SystemUI Server seem to crash the machine? I'd issues with those using previous versions of 10.5. Not on 10.5.2. > As a general comment - is it me, or are Intel machine more prone to > freezing especially when entering or leaving sleep. No issues with sleep here on a MBP and MBA. Did you do a clean install to get to 10.5 or an upgrade? Ian  SignatureIan Robinson, Belfast, UK <http://www.canicula.com/wp/> >> Annoy else had Leopard lookup completely solid after the mdworker and >> SystemUI Server seem to crash the machine? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Did you do a clean install to get to 10.5 or an upgrade? Clean install. Then installed MYSQL5, WEBMIN, Imagemagick and Entropy PHP 5.26b and restored Apache, MYSQL and BIND data. Now Suitcase Fusion has decided to start chewing 120% cpu. I'm starting to regret this... Really shouldn't have done a job that showed me the shininess of the TimeMachine/TimeCapsule. My better judgement said why bother? You have a relatively stable dev platform, CCC works. My idiot self wanted to play with new toys, particularly TextMate2 whenever that arrives... I thought 6 mnths and 2 dot releases later I'd be on safe ground. Dumb, dumb, dumb. [snip] > I thought 6 mnths and 2 dot releases later I'd be on safe ground. Dumb, > dumb, dumb. It takes a couple of years for them to start producing computery stuff of basic merchantable quality (as the old sale of goods act has it), when they start on something new these days, as far as I can tell. And they've got the consumer so well trained that most people just put up with it. As far as I can tell, all home and most professional computing kit is beta quality these days. And if you don't like it, you can just do without. It's only the scientific, industrial, and military stuff that one can rely on as far as I can tell - and in different ways, 'cos the science people generally use normal home/office type computer hardware, just with special software. Rowland. SignatureRemove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell@dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking > Annoy else had Leopard lookup completely solid after the mdworker and > SystemUI Server seem to crash the machine? This has happened twice in [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > As a general comment - is it me, or are Intel machine more prone to > freezing especially when entering or leaving sleep. I get a general feeling that the intel machines are less reliable than the PPCs. Mine has locked up 3 times, where nothing was working apart from the mouse button (not the rest of the mouse) and then it completely froze. Sabs is so useless with wireless she is considering going to go from her macbook to her old 12" 800MHz powerbook. It drops the network often when powered, but when on battery she often goes to use the eee as it is so bad (and you should see the keyboard on that!). Especially as mostly she uses her macbook to communicate. I wouldn't change mine because it is so good at running logic, although if it locks up again I will send it back to apple. The iMac is pretty damn good so far, but I only got that last week, so probably not good to judge. SignatureWoody www.alienrat.com >> Annoy else had Leopard lookup completely solid after the mdworker and >> SystemUI Server seem to crash the machine? This has happened twice in [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > bad (and you should see the keyboard on that!). > Especially as mostly she uses her macbook to communicate. Ever since the Pre-N card Apple's wireless reliability has gone to sh.t. > I wouldn't change mine because it is so good at running logic, although > if it locks up again I will send it back to apple. > > The iMac is pretty damn good so far, but I only got that last week, so > probably not good to judge. Pretty aren't they. > >> Annoy else had Leopard lookup completely solid after the mdworker and > >> SystemUI Server seem to crash the machine? This has happened twice in [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Ever since the Pre-N card Apple's wireless reliability has gone to sh.t. The wireless on the macbook pro is not so bad, in that I haven't had any real problems with it. Hers is just awful. I was thinking of trying to go back to 10.4.8 ish on that, as it seemed ok then. Although maybe it is something else. Every so often it claims that it has no bluetooth, and once that it had no wireless card. > > I wouldn't change mine because it is so good at running logic, although > > if it locks up again I will send it back to apple. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Pretty aren't they. Very. the screen is lovely. Now all my 20" monitors look tiny. SignatureWoody www.alienrat.com >> >> Annoy else had Leopard lookup completely solid after the mdworker and >> >> SystemUI Server seem to crash the machine? I think I've had that on the Air, when starting Parallels. mdworker and SystemUI Server spang to 100%, and you can hardle do anything? First time I bounced it, second time I left it and after 20 minutes it got better and everything went back to normal. >> >> This has happened twice in >> >> the last 2 days -which is disappointing as one of the reasons I moved to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> >> As a general comment - is it me, or are Intel machine more prone to >> >> freezing especially when entering or leaving sleep. Not that I've noticed. With the Mini under the TV spending much of its time asleep, it gets woken up 3-4 times a day and has never yet wedged. The MacBooks and Air tend to get woken up+slept dozens of times a day, and I've seen two wedges on the grilfiend's MB (fans on, black screen, no network presence). My PB12" would hang more often, but that got better with later Tiger releases. >> > I get a general feeling that the intel machines are less reliable than >> > the PPCs. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >Hers is just awful. I was thinking of trying to go back to 10.4.8 ish on >that, as it seemed ok then. I've had absolutely no trouble not caused by nearby big slabs of metal, and use wifi exclusively on two MacBooks and an Air. >Although maybe it is something else. Every so often it claims that it >has no bluetooth, and once that it had no wireless card. That does sound like a dodgy connection. I'd say applecare it if you can spare the time. Cheers - Jaimie SignatureRemember, "persistence" is just a euphemism for "serial failure" -- Tim Dawson >>>>> Annoy else had Leopard lookup completely solid after the mdworker and >>>>> SystemUI Server seem to crash the machine? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > First time I bounced it, second time I left it and after 20 minutes it > got better and everything went back to normal. Interesting. It was whilst Parallels 2.5 was opening. Suitcase crashed when Flash tried auto-activating some fonts. Might dump it and use Font Book instead for a while. I'm gonna have to trawl the logs and try to get the amount of crap produced down to a minimal amount then start moaning proper if it still continues. >>>>>> Annoy else had Leopard lookup completely solid after the mdworker and >>>>>> SystemUI Server seem to crash the machine? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Interesting. It was whilst Parallels 2.5 was opening. Just so - Parallels 3 here though. Only on the Air, it hasn't happened on the other Parallels install I use, on a 2GHz Mini. >I'm gonna have to trawl the logs and try to get the amount of crap >produced down to a minimal amount then start moaning proper if it still >continues. Nowt in the logs when I did it. A bit of dtracing would probably show things up, but you need to set that up in advance. Cheers - Jaimie SignatureIt's time to light the candles! It's time to chant the rites! It's time to summon Satan on the Muppet Show tonight! > >> Ever since the Pre-N card Apple's wireless reliability has gone to sh.t. > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I've had absolutely no trouble not caused by nearby big slabs of > metal, and use wifi exclusively on two MacBooks and an Air. I use the wifi exclusively on a macbook and a macbook pro. The macbook is a nightmare. The pro is fine, unless you transfer too much, in which case it goes bad. > >Although maybe it is something else. Every so often it claims that it > >has no bluetooth, and once that it had no wireless card. > > That does sound like a dodgy connection. I'd say applecare it if you > can spare the time. No applecare on that machine sadly. SignatureWoody www.alienrat.com >> >The wireless on the macbook pro is not so bad, in that I haven't had any >> >real problems with it. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >is a nightmare. The pro is fine, unless you transfer too much, in which >case it goes bad. That last rings vague bells, but only back in 10.4.6 or so. >> >Although maybe it is something else. Every so often it claims that it >> >has no bluetooth, and once that it had no wireless card. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >No applecare on that machine sadly. Out with the screwdriver then! G'wan, it'll be fun. Get in and wiggle the connections. Cheers - Jaimie Signature#include "clue.h" > > >> Ever since the Pre-N card Apple's wireless reliability has gone to sh.t. > > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > is a nightmare. The pro is fine, unless you transfer too much, in which > case it goes bad. There might be something wrong with that particular MB. Here, mine has done strange things on the wireless front on occasion but all attributable to software befuddlement.. > > >Although maybe it is something else. Every so often it claims that it > > >has no bluetooth, and once that it had no wireless card. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > No applecare on that machine sadly. Signatureflavio matani guitar tuition homepage.mac.com/flavio_matani/guitar/ www.livejournal.com/users/flavius_m/ > Annoy else had Leopard lookup completely solid after the mdworker and > SystemUI Server seem to crash the machine? This has happened twice in [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > As a general comment - is it me, or are Intel machine more prone to > freezing especially when entering or leaving sleep. I've been having a few freezes of late where the the whole machine will just become unresponsive - no keyboard or mouse operation possible. I have to force a restart to clear it. Disk Utility indicated problems with the disk but couldn't repair them. I've run fsck (for the first time ever) to clear them in the hope that this is the cause. SignatureCheers, Steve The reply-to email address is a spam trap. Email steve 'at' shodgson 'dot' org 'dot' uk >> Annoy else had Leopard lookup completely solid after the mdworker and >> SystemUI Server seem to crash the machine? This has happened twice in [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >I've run fsck (for the first time ever) to clear them in the hope that >this is the cause. Backups up to date? Incredibly low prices of hard drives noted? Cheers - Jaimie Signature#include "clue.h" >>> Annoy else had Leopard lookup completely solid after the mdworker and >>> SystemUI Server seem to crash the machine? This has happened twice in [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Backups up to date? Incredibly low prices of hard drives noted? It's the high cost of MBP repairs that worries me more :o( I had another freeze today, checked the drive again and it showed up as ok. Need to backup more though... SignatureCheers, Steve The reply-to email address is a spam trap. Email steve 'at' shodgson 'dot' org 'dot' uk > As a general comment - is it me, or are Intel machine more prone to > freezing especially when entering or leaving sleep. Not freezing, but I've had my MBP completely restart on me when I put it to sleep. Maybe five times in the last year or so (thinking about it, it hasn't done that in the last six months or so...) -z- Signature"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge." - Charles Darwin > Annoy else had Leopard lookup completely solid after the mdworker and > SystemUI Server seem to crash the machine? > As a general comment - is it me, or are Intel machine more prone to > freezing especially when entering or leaving sleep. No problems here. The only time it's frozen was trying to run some game (Beyond the Red Line? I think) but there are various threads on the web about that game locking up under Leopard, so no surprise and apparently there is a known fix. Otherwise this machine gets a reasonable thrashing, but no problems. SignaturePd > Annoy else had Leopard lookup completely solid after the mdworker and > SystemUI Server seem to crash the machine? This has happened twice in > the last 2 days -which is disappointing as one of the reasons I moved to > Leopard was in the hope that my MBP would become as reliable as the old > TiBook was. I have trashed DivX. Ditto - My C2D MBP ran great - only 1 reset in 11 months. But Leopard on and almost every 3/4 days I have to reset, especially coming out of sleep when mdworker starts to do it's stuff. Was even worse with Time Machine working. I bought a family pack of Leopard, to put on my wifes iMac.... I will leave Tiger on it till I am confident that Leopard is working ok. 12 months of being a switcher to Macs and this is the first time I have lost faith. Great products.. Tiger, iWorks, Aperture, Airport Extreme, but Leopard, no. SignatureClive We don't die, we just stop paying taxes. |
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