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Mac Forum / Country Specific / UK Mac Group / February 2008Aperture 2 Graphic Cards
I currently have Dual 2 gig G5 with 4 gig of Ram and the ATI 9650 AGP Graphics card have the opportunity of an Apple/Nvidia Geforce 6600 AGP Card with 256 mb GDDR Ram... Would I see any "speed and general performance increase" if I get this card using mainly Aperture 2.0 and PS CS3 I have also the opportunity of a ATI Radeon X800 XT Mac Edition but its extremely pricey.... Looking to reduce the beach ball spinning most of the time, any comments welcome... Mike  SignaturePeace and Happiness is a State of Mind... > I currently have Dual 2 gig G5 with 4 gig of Ram and the ATI 9650 AGP > Graphics card have the opportunity of an Apple/Nvidia Geforce 6600 AGP [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Looking to reduce the beach ball spinning most of the time, any > comments welcome... If you're geting beachballing, then probably not. I'm running a dual 1.8 G5 with 4.5GB of RAM, and a Radeon 9800XT card, and don't get any beachballing. Some of the adjusters are painfully slow in Aperture, but that's nothing to do with the card - these actually seem to work better with the old GeForce 5200FX card in it. The biggest speed differences I saw were with more RAM (which you have), and using a RAID-0 drive array. The rest of the system may appear a little snappier, but I didn't see anything to write home about. The biggest difference was in some games, which isn't all that important to me. My take on graphics cards, from my own experience, and by reading other forums, is that the Nvidia cards seem to work better, but the Radeons have been developed longer for the G5s. The X800XT will probably give you the biggest boost, but I have seen some reports of these burning out PSUs on the G5. Another thing to remember, with some of the upgrade cards you do lose the PCI slot next to the AGP slot, as they have a cooler and fan onboard that are huge. I upgraded the cooler on my 9800XT with a Zalman copper kit, as the OEM fan was rubbish, and prone to blocking up, then not cooling enough. SignatureAndy Hewitt <http://web.mac.com/andrewhewitt1/> >> I currently have Dual 2 gig G5 with 4 gig of Ram and the ATI 9650 AGP >> Graphics card have the opportunity of an Apple/Nvidia Geforce 6600 AGP [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > kit, as the OEM fan was rubbish, and prone to blocking up, then not > cooling enough. Thanks for the info appreciated, time to make decisons I was looking at an upgrade its now a case of G5 or iMac, the 24" iMac as certain appeal but the glossy screens create doubts... Thanks for the heads up X800 and PSU's appreciated I was leaning towards that card, its 340.00 which would go long way towards the iMac... Mike SignaturePeace and Happiness is a State of Mind... > Thanks for the info appreciated, time to make decisons I was looking at an > upgrade its now a case of G5 or iMac, the 24" iMac as certain appeal but > the glossy screens create doubts... I was like that until I got one. I wouldn't have a non glossy screen now. SignatureWoody >> Thanks for the info appreciated, time to make decisons I was looking >> at an upgrade its now a case of G5 or iMac, the 24" iMac as certain >> appeal but the glossy screens create doubts... > > I was like that until I got one. I wouldn't have a non glossy screen now. My son feels exactly the same since he got a MacBook Pro with a glossy screen. SignatureDavid Kennedy http://www.anindianinexile.com [..] > Thanks for the info appreciated, time to make decisons I was looking at > an upgrade its now a case of G5 or iMac, the 24" iMac as certain appeal [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > towards that card, its 340.00 which would go long way towards the > iMac... I did all my upgrade a year ago, when buying a new model might not have given me a better machine for the money. Now I'd definitely like a new model iMac, but it'd have to be at least a mid range model to match the graphics capabilities I already have. Unlike Woody, I'm not so keen on the glossy screens. I've seen a few on display in the stores - I think it's one of those things you'll either love or hate. The PSU in the G5 is already a known weakness, there's coverage for failures in some models. Mine wasn't covered when it blew up last summer. SignatureAndy Hewitt <http://web.mac.com/andrewhewitt1/> > [..] >> Thanks for the info appreciated, time to make decisons I was looking at [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > display in the stores - I think it's one of those things you'll either > love or hate. Maybe. I think they look bad in stores too (so if you work in a store, it is a bad idea!). I was forced into it, I certainly didn't want one, but I got a macbook first, and there was no choice. After using that, when I went to a macbook pro there was a choice and I went for glossy. I would pay a bit more for glossy. This all suprised me. I knew they were better for photos and video, but was suprised to find they were good for text too. > The PSU in the G5 is already a known weakness, there's coverage for > failures in some models. Mine wasn't covered when it blew up last > summer. I wouldn't get a G5 now unless it was really cheap. SignatureWoody > > Unlike Woody, I'm not so keen on the glossy screens. I've seen a few on > > display in the stores - I think it's one of those things you'll either [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > This all suprised me. I knew they were better for photos and video, but was > suprised to find they were good for text too. I think I'd have to try it first I guess. At least with a G5 I could plug one in before committing to an iMac. > > The PSU in the G5 is already a known weakness, there's coverage for > > failures in some models. Mine wasn't covered when it blew up last > > summer. > > I wouldn't get a G5 now unless it was really cheap. I think Mike was thinking about upgrading his existing one. However, a dual G5 is still a handy machine to have. Even the late G4s are a good machine, and can be got cheap now. SignatureAndy Hewitt <http://web.mac.com/andrewhewitt1/> >> > Unlike Woody, I'm not so keen on the glossy screens. I've seen a few on >> > display in the stores - I think it's one of those things you'll either [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > I think I'd have to try it first I guess. At least with a G5 I could > plug one in before committing to an iMac. I find them better for reflections. The reflections on a mat one come from all directions, the shiney ones only get reflections from one direction, so you can move a shiney one and get rid of them! Apart from that they do produce better colour (and black). White is about the same >> > The PSU in the G5 is already a known weakness, there's coverage for >> > failures in some models. Mine wasn't covered when it blew up last [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > dual G5 is still a handy machine to have. Even the late G4s are a good > machine, and can be got cheap now. Ahh, sorry, missed the earlier bit. Yes, I still have a late G4, as it is our normal office one, and it does everything that is needed. A faster machine wouldn't get anything done faster. SignatureWoody > > I think I'd have to try it first I guess. At least with a G5 I could > > plug one in before committing to an iMac. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Apart from that they do produce better colour (and black). White is about > the same Hmmm, might be convincing me to have another look sometime. > >> > The PSU in the G5 is already a known weakness, there's coverage for > >> > failures in some models. Mine wasn't covered when it blew up last [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > everything that is needed. A faster machine wouldn't get anything done > faster. Indeed. I am amazed sometimes how much people will spend on a machine to handle a few Emails and text documents. SignatureAndy Hewitt <http://web.mac.com/andrewhewitt1/> > > > I think I'd have to try it first I guess. At least with a G5 I could > > > plug one in before committing to an iMac. [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Indeed. I am amazed sometimes how much people will spend on a machine to > handle a few Emails and text documents. Actually the G4 is pretty good (dual 1.25) as it has a lot of ram and about 700GB of space. Speed isn't really an issue. SignatureWoody www.alienrat.com > > Indeed. I am amazed sometimes how much people will spend on a machine to > > handle a few Emails and text documents. > > Actually the G4 is pretty good (dual 1.25) as it has a lot of ram and > about 700GB of space. Speed isn't really an issue. Indeed. Anne uses a TiBook to do some browsing and email, and a lot of text work. 663MHz, 500M RAM. 6 years old. OS 10.3.9. It's really no speed demon, but she does absolutely fine with it. SignaturePeter > Thanks for the info appreciated, time to make decisons I was looking at > an upgrade its now a case of G5 or iMac, the 24" iMac as certain appeal > but the glossy screens create doubts... I like the 24" glossy screen but if you find it's an issue you could try using you current monitor as a second display. Arthur > I currently have Dual 2 gig G5 with 4 gig of Ram and the ATI 9650 AGP > Graphics card have the opportunity of an Apple/Nvidia Geforce 6600 AGP > Card with 256 mb GDDR Ram... > > Would I see any "speed and general performance increase" if I get this > card using mainly Aperture 2.0 and PS CS3 I don't know, but from practical experience with most apps running on a G-something processor vs on an Intel, I'd say you'd get the most noticable speed boost from switching to Intel. Most software manufacturers consider the Gs legacy and optimise for the Intels. SignatureCheers Martin > > I currently have Dual 2 gig G5 with 4 gig of Ram and the ATI 9650 AGP > > Graphics card have the opportunity of an Apple/Nvidia Geforce 6600 AGP [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Most software manufacturers consider the Gs legacy and optimise for the > Intels. That certainly seems to be the case for Aperture. SignatureAndy Hewitt <http://web.mac.com/andrewhewitt1/> |
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