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Mac Forum / Country Specific / UK Mac Group / February 2008Is this a stupid question?
I've just set up one of those Vodafone USB broadband devices on a MacBook Air. So far so good - I can browse the internet and receive e-mails. However, I can't send e-mails because Mail can't use the Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP). The question is what outgoing mail server should I specify so I can send e-mails via the USB device? Thanks Ian > I've just set up one of those Vodafone USB broadband devices on a > MacBook Air. So far so good - I can browse the internet and receive > e-mails. However, I can't send e-mails because Mail can't use the > Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP). The question is what outgoing mail server > should I specify so I can send e-mails via the USB device? If you an email service independent of any ISP so that your email address is of the form myname@mydoman.co.uk you will also be given the use of a mailserver of the form smtp.mydomain.com which will require you to provide a username and password. It is normally possible to use such services via any ISP. Alternatively you have to use the smtp server provided by the ISP - in this case Vodafone. Do they not give you an email address? The difficulty arises that you then have to change your email client settings according to the internet connection.#  SignatureGraham J > > I've just set up one of those Vodafone USB broadband devices on a > > MacBook Air. So far so good - I can browse the internet and receive [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > arises that you then have to change your email client settings according to > the internet connection.# Thanks for all the replies. I feel educated in the topic of outgoing mail servers. Armed with this knowledge I contacted the ISP and they tweaked something which allowed me to use their server regardless of the location of the MacBook. Thanks Ian > I've just set up one of those Vodafone USB broadband devices on a > MacBook Air. So far so good - I can browse the internet and receive > e-mails. However, I can't send e-mails because Mail can't use the > Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP). The question is what outgoing mail server > should I specify so I can send e-mails via the USB device? Yes, I've got the same problem. I got the impression from the Vodafone literature that I'd be able to send from any account. I can use my .Mac account to send, but not my Pipex one. Not an immediate problem, but one I will need to resolve. I also want to check my usage, but can't find how to do it anywhere - and I couldn't get the device the to operate in Parallels so that's not an option either. The query I sent via the Vodafone support page last Thursday hasn't had a reply yet. Danny > > I've just set up one of those Vodafone USB broadband devices on a > > MacBook Air. So far so good - I can browse the internet and receive [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Yes, I've got the same problem. I got the impression from the Vodafone > literature that I'd be able to send from any account. You can only send to an account that has smtp authentication. Noone with a standard SMTP service is going to let you send mail unless you connected through them. > I can use my .Mac account to send, but not my Pipex one. Yes. for that reason > Not an immediate problem, but one I will need to resolve. Why, if you can send via the .mac address? Failing that can't you just send through someone like google or yahoo? > I also want to check my usage, but can't find how to do it anywhere - > and I couldn't get the device the to operate in Parallels so that's > not an option either. Like this: <http://m.ac.nz/cheetahwatch/> , which looks like this: <http://skitch.com/woody/g6ra/modem-status> ? Don't vodafone have any sort of checker thing? I have a thing on three which says what your usage is. SignatureWoody www.alienrat.com > > I also want to check my usage, but can't find how to do it anywhere - > > and I couldn't get the device the to operate in Parallels so that's > > not an option either. > > Like this: <http://m.ac.nz/cheetahwatch/> Lovely bit of software, for free! And what a fantastic FQD. Obviously the New Zealand academic network allow single character domains. SignaturePd > > Not an immediate problem, but one I will need to resolve. > > Why, if you can send via the .mac address? Because I don't mind sending from my .Mac address, but my wife doesn't want to on her PB G4. I'd tried changing the reply-to address, but that didn't work. Looks like I'll set up a Gmail account for this purpose now. > > I also want to check my usage, but can't find how to do it anywhere - > > and I couldn't get the device the to operate in Parallels so that's [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Don't vodafone have any sort of checker thing? I have a thing on three > which says what your usage is. Vodafone don't seem to have a usage checker for Macs. I was sure I read about it somewhere when I was doing the research, but I can't find it anywhere. Vodafone haven't responded to my emailed query sent a week ago, and the person I spoke to on their helpline number couldn't help. CheetahWatch is just the thing though. I'm using it now. Excellent, thanks. Danny >> > Not an immediate problem, but one I will need to resolve. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > want to on her PB G4. I'd tried changing the reply-to address, but > that didn't work. Why not, how can it not work changing your address? Or is it a mac.com thing that changes the address? > Looks like I'll set up a Gmail account for this > purpose now. Makes sense >> > I also want to check my usage, but can't find how to do it anywhere - >> > and I couldn't get the device the to operate in Parallels so that's [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Vodafone don't seem to have a usage checker for Macs. I meant on their website. Three have a webpage thing called 'MyThree' where you can check your usage, and other stuff. It doesnt count in your usage either as it is on the three website. I assumed vodafone would have the same thing. > I was sure I > read about it somewhere when I was doing the research, but I can't > find it anywhere. Vodafone haven't responded to my emailed query sent > a week ago, and the person I spoke to on their helpline number > couldn't help. That sounds normal for any phone company. SignatureWoody > > I was sure I > > read about it somewhere when I was doing the research, but I can't [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > That sounds normal for any phone company. Pretty normal for an ISP as well, or so I thought until I switched from Pipex to Be. Pipex used to charge me an extra £3 a month if I went over the 2GB cap, which I did regularly, but provided no way to find out what my current usage was. They obviously knew, because they'd charge me for going over, but they lacked the wit to put it on MyPipex account. Pipex also took over my phone calls without being asked to. Then they charged me £143 for cancelling my account with them, which they said they wouldn't, then said they'd refund. Be have been Bloody Brilliant. Freephone number for customer support. I signed up for Be Unlimited, 24Mbps download and 1.3Mbps upload. Unfortunately my line won't support any better than 4Mbps, so I emailed them asking what I need to do to downgrade to the cheaper Value plan, and is there any advantage to staying on the Unlimited Plan They emailed back within 10 minutes saying they'd reduced my monthly fee to the Value plan, that the only advantage for me on the Unlimited would be if I wanted a fixed IP address. I was gobsmacked - fast, really helpful, and an answer that was actually relevant to the question I'd asked, rather than your typical answer off a database picked by tagging keywords so probably not answering the actual question. SignaturePd > > > I was sure I > > > read about it somewhere when I was doing the research, but I can't [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > usage was. They obviously knew, because they'd charge me for going over, > but they lacked the wit to put it on MyPipex account. Are you sure it was a lack of wit? I mean by not putting it on the page, they got £3/month extra from you. If they did expend some resources to make a page with the usage on it, they wouldn't get that money. Doesn't seem like a lack of wit! > Pipex also took over my phone calls without being asked to. ooh - you got slammed! > Then they charged me £143 for cancelling my account with them, which > they said they wouldn't, then said they'd refund. Thats nice > Be have been Bloody Brilliant. > Freephone number for customer support. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > to the Value plan, that the only advantage for me on the Unlimited would > be if I wanted a fixed IP address. See, now I couldn't join a plan called 'unlimited', as it is clearly untrue. But sounds good anyway. SignatureWoody www.alienrat.com > See, now I couldn't join a plan called 'unlimited', as it is clearly > untrue. But sounds good anyway. I download about 5GB a month, which I don't think is taking the piss, so "unlimited" in my case means "I haven't reached the limit" and is therefore quite true. SignaturePd > Yes, I've got the same problem. I got the impression from the Vodafone > literature that I'd be able to send from any account. > > I can use my .Mac account to send, but not my Pipex one. > > Not an immediate problem, but one I will need to resolve. Could be the port that is in use. I had to change to port 225 to be able to send from some networks whilst away from home. I also had to help someone recently who used BT broadband when at home but couldn't send email when away in hotels. We set them up with a sub-£20 per year Gradwell SMTP account for sending all mail to solve that problem. Ian SignatureIan Robinson, Belfast, UK <http://www.canicula.com/wp/> > > Yes, I've got the same problem. I got the impression from the Vodafone > > literature that I'd be able to send from any account. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Ian SignatureWoody www.alienrat.com > > > Yes, I've got the same problem. I got the impression from the Vodafone > > > literature that I'd be able to send from any account. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > couldn't send email when away in hotels. We set them up with a sub-£20 per > > year Gradwell SMTP account for sending all mail to solve that problem. Odd. My macbook locked up almost entirely, apart from the mouse button. Not much use but a bit strange. I think it may need to go back - it has now done that 3 times. Anyway, i was going to say, you can do that with a free google account. SignatureWoody www.alienrat.com > Anyway, i was going to say, you can do that with a free google account. I'm sure you can. But I know that Gradwell works and I needed to set up the user in question with something I was confident in. I use Gradwell so that;s what I went with. £18 per year or something. Ian SignatureIan Robinson, Belfast, UK <http://www.canicula.com/wp/> > > Anyway, i was going to say, you can do that with a free google account. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Ian www.authsmto.com did it for me > > I've just set up one of those Vodafone USB broadband devices on a > > MacBook Air. So far so good - I can browse the internet and receive [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > I can use my .Mac account to send, but not my Pipex one. Vodafone won't stop you sending, but, your ISPs etc won't accept incoming SMTP requests to their servers unless you are using their internet connection to stop spammers using their server. A quick google would suggest the vodafone smtp server is 'send.vodafone.net'. Or as others suggest, use an smtp server that doesn't matter what connection you use. Note this doesn't have to be the email address or account you are using, so you could set up a gmail account for the authenticated smtp server part, and send the pipex mail regardless of which connection you are using. SignatureJon B Above email address IS valid. <http://www.bramley-computers.co.uk/> Apple Laptop Repairs. > > > I've just set up one of those Vodafone USB broadband devices on a > > > MacBook Air. So far so good - I can browse the internet and receive [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > authenticated smtp server part, and send the pipex mail regardless of > which connection you are using. Be aware that if you use GMail's SMTP server with your Gmail credentials, it will re-write the From: address to your Gmail address, irrespective of what your mail client is set to. I have been bitten by this numerous times in the past, where I've sent mails from my work account using smtp.gmail.com and had the replies (for the recipients never bother to change the reply-to address) go to my Gmail account. Which I don't check until I get home. There may be a setting you can change in Gmail's web interface, but smtp.ox now uses authentication, so I can use it wherever. Cheers, Signaturejames dore IT Officer, New College, Oxford http://www.new.ox.ac.uk/ it-support@new.... > I have been bitten by > this numerous times in the past, where I've sent mails from my work > account using smtp.gmail.com and had the replies (for the recipients > never bother to change the reply-to address) Can't *you* insert a reply-to header in the mail? That should redirect all replies to your specified mail address. I've been doing this for years, in Eudora, when I post from my Geneva dialup ISP. All my outgoing mail goes through their smtp server, and I collect all the replies via my Demon mail service. Works a treat. SignaturePeter > > I have been bitten by > > this numerous times in the past, where I've sent mails from my work [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > mail goes through their smtp server, and I collect all the replies via > my Demon mail service. Works a treat. Hm - it's not immediately obvious how to achieve this with Mail.app - since I have a working solution I'm not too bothered, but I'll bear that in mind for some other time. Cheers, Signaturejames dore IT Officer, New College, Oxford http://www.new.ox.ac.uk/ it-support@new.... >>> I have been bitten by >>> this numerous times in the past, where I've sent mails from my work [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > since I have a working solution I'm not too bothered, but I'll bear that > in mind for some other time. Try the popup "headers" menu. <http://skitch.com/chrisridd/g9f3/reply-to-headers> Or, use View > Reply-To Address Field. Cheers, Chris > > > > I've just set up one of those Vodafone USB broadband devices on a > > > > MacBook Air. So far so good - I can browse the internet and receive [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > - Show quoted text - whilst i've had mixed results using the gmail SMTP servers full stop, you can register your own reply to address via the Gmail account settings - .e.g my domain name is used for email forwarding and i'd like stuff sent via gmail to have a "from" field of xxxx@mydomain.com. I register the xxxx@mydomain.com on the gmail account settings, they send an email to it to ensure i do own it, and once i've clicked on the hyperlink it's authorised as a reply to address. you can then set gmail to default to that address in the future... > I've just set up one of those Vodafone USB broadband devices on a > MacBook Air. So far so good - I can browse the internet and receive > e-mails. However, I can't send e-mails because Mail can't use the > Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP). The question is what outgoing mail server > should I specify so I can send e-mails via the USB device? If you have a GMail account as well, you can try their SMTP server. Signaturemarco > I've just set up one of those Vodafone USB broadband devices on a > MacBook Air. So far so good - I can browse the internet and receive [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Thanks > Ian There are no stupid questions.... just stupid people. . |
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