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Ray Hutchings - 29 Jan 2008 22:41 GMT

I'm sure this is a daft question, but . . .

In iPhoto if I use the Show Aperture Library and drag an image file
into iPhoto the photo is imported at a much lower quality than the
original in Aperture. Is there a setting somewhere that controls this?

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Steve Hodgson - 29 Jan 2008 22:59 GMT

> I'm sure this is a daft question, but . . .
>
> In iPhoto if I use the Show Aperture Library and drag an image file
> into iPhoto the photo is imported at a much lower quality than the
> original in Aperture. Is there a setting somewhere that controls this?

Yes.

You are actually dragging a preview of the image rather than the master
image. You control the size of these via the Previews section of the
preferences in Aperture. You can change this and then force a single
project to regenerate previews rather than have to live with huge
previews that are of no benefit.

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Andy Hewitt - 29 Jan 2008 23:11 GMT

> > I'm sure this is a daft question, but . . .
> >
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> project to regenerate previews rather than have to live with huge
> previews that are of no benefit.

Or even a single image.

If you want to use the original file in iPhoto, you'll need to export
the Master image from Aperture.

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Ray Hutchings - 30 Jan 2008 08:19 GMT

>>> I'm sure this is a daft question, but . . .
>>>
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> If you want to use the original file in iPhoto, you'll need to export
> the Master image from Aperture.

Thank you. It all makes perfect sense now.

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Dave - 30 Jan 2008 11:24 GMT

> >>> I'm sure this is a daft question, but . . .
> >>>
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>
> Thank you. It all makes perfect sense now.

Well - not quite - yet, to me! See my other naive questions!
Does iPhoto only 'see' the previews generated within Aperture?
Presumably not, or the quality difference would be noticeable.

If I wanted other apps to use the Aperture Library are high quality
previews going to be useful? I do understand that the settings can be
changed on a project by project basis and so on.

From within iPhoto looking at the Aperture library, dragging into iPhoto
imports a preview.
From within Aperture, selecting and dragging an image onto, say the
desktop creates a ... what?

Ah, things to find out ..

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Andy Hewitt - 30 Jan 2008 11:37 GMT

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> > > If you want to use the original file in iPhoto, you'll need to export
> > > the Master image from Aperture.
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> Does iPhoto only 'see' the previews generated within Aperture?
> Presumably not, or the quality difference would be noticeable.

That is correct, the Previews are actually essential for being able to
use images in Aperture with the other iApps (iPhoto, Pages, iweb etc.).

Not all of the other apps are able to deal with RAW images, so creating
a JPG preview image is needed to give them something they can use.

> If I wanted other apps to use the Aperture Library are high quality
> previews going to be useful? I do understand that the settings can be
> changed on a project by project basis and so on.

It all depends on what they are going to be used for?

If you intend to mostly create web pages and slide shows, or multimedia
DVDs, then standard screen resolution is adequate. If you intend to
print them to photo paper, then you'll need maximum resolution.

> From within iPhoto looking at the Aperture library, dragging into iPhoto
> imports a preview.
> From within Aperture, selecting and dragging an image onto, say the
> desktop creates a ... what?

A copy of the preview. It's one way to see if a preview has been created
(Aperture doesn't have any flag to say so), if you drag a RAW image to
the desktop, and there's no preview, then you'll get nowt.

> Ah, things to find out ..

Try reading the Bagelturf site I posted earlier, it covers almost
everything you need to know.

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Dave - 30 Jan 2008 15:53 GMT

> [..]
> > > > If you want to use the original file in iPhoto, you'll need to export
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> Not all of the other apps are able to deal with RAW images, so creating
> a JPG preview image is needed to give them something they can use.

OK - ta

> > If I wanted other apps to use the Aperture Library are high quality
> > previews going to be useful? I do understand that the settings can be
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> DVDs, then standard screen resolution is adequate. If you intend to
> print them to photo paper, then you'll need maximum resolution.

I understand that - now.

> > From within iPhoto looking at the Aperture library, dragging into iPhoto
> > imports a preview.
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> (Aperture doesn't have any flag to say so), if you drag a RAW image to
> the desktop, and there's no preview, then you'll get nowt.

Which makes sense, once it has been said!

> > Ah, things to find out ..
>
> Try reading the Bagelturf site I posted earlier, it covers almost
> everything you need to know.

I'm sure you are right. I have begun to do just that.

cheers,

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Elliott Roper - 30 Jan 2008 16:21 GMT

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> > Try reading the Bagelturf site I posted earlier, it covers almost
> > everything you need to know.
>
> I'm sure you are right. I have begun to do just that.

May I add my thanks? I did not know about that excellent site either.
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Andy Hewitt - 30 Jan 2008 17:08 GMT

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> > It all depends on what they are going to be used for?
> >
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>
> I understand that - now.

The default is to use Maximum resolution (the image's original size),
with about No.5 or 6 on the quality scale. I find using screen
resolution and a quality of 8 seems to be fine for most stuff. If I need
a few for something else, I just export them. These end up at about
250K.

If you have the space, setting both to maximum would give you the most
useful previews - I just tried this, and from my Olympus 12MB RAWs the
JPGs end up at about 7.5MB each.

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Dave - 31 Jan 2008 07:26 GMT

> [..]
> > > It all depends on what they are going to be used for?
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> useful previews - I just tried this, and from my Olympus 12MB RAWs the
> JPGs end up at about 7.5MB each.

Rather large files! Must be comparable to the original RAWs

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Andy Hewitt - 31 Jan 2008 11:18 GMT

> > If you have the space, setting both to maximum would give you the most
> > useful previews - I just tried this, and from my Olympus 12MB RAWs the
> > JPGs end up at about 7.5MB each.
>
> Rather large files! Must be comparable to the original RAWs

Possibly. If I create a 16bit TIFF they end up at 40MB.

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