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Andy Fraser - 29 Jan 2008 20:27 GMT
Hi,

I'm looking to upgrade my MacBook's hard drive. Before I jump in does
anyone have any recommendations?

I'm looking for around 160GB+ and 5400RPM, for reduced heat and better
power consumption over 7200RPM drives.

Many thanks,

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Danny Thompson - 29 Jan 2008 21:35 GMT
> I'm looking to upgrade my MacBook's hard drive. Before I jump in does
> anyone have any recommendations?

Late last year I put this in my MacBook Pro:

<http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?QuickLinx=4RQV>

Following which David Kennedy pointed out this:

<http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270207841960>

(well, the sale he pointed out has since ended - but the link is to
the same item, from the same seller).

I swapped my old 120Gb drive into a portable enclosure, which I got
from Dabs for under a tenner, and which works fine without a power
supply.

It all works swimmingly so far.

Danny
Andy Fraser - 29 Jan 2008 22:01 GMT
> > I'm looking to upgrade my MacBook's hard drive. Before I jump in does
> > anyone have any recommendations?
>
> Late last year I put this in my MacBook Pro:
>
> <http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?QuickLinx=4RQV>

Nice. What does 2.5" x 1/8H mean (the 1/8H bit)?

> Following which David Kennedy pointed out this:
>
> <http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270207841960>

Thank for that. :o)

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Danny Thompson - 29 Jan 2008 23:35 GMT
> Nice. What does 2.5" x 1/8H mean (the 1/8H bit)?

As far as I know it means the drive is 1/8" high. I know that some are
bigger than this, and therefore won't fit.

Danny
Richard Tobin - 29 Jan 2008 23:56 GMT
>> Nice. What does 2.5" x 1/8H mean (the 1/8H bit)?

>As far as I know it means the drive is 1/8" high.

I don't think so.  That would be very thin!  And the height is in fact
listed as 9.5mm.

Long ago there were full-height drives and half-height drives, about
3" and 1.5" high respectively.  Presumably 1/8H means one-eighth height,
which would indeed be about 10mm.

-- Richard
:wq
Danny Thompson - 30 Jan 2008 00:12 GMT
> In article <2264f8c1-ccda-41dc-99fa-602568312...@k39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
>
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> I don't think so.  That would be very thin!  And the height is in fact
> listed as 9.5mm.

Doh! Of course you're right. In addition to what Thom says see here:

http://www.storagereview.com/guide2000/ref/hdd/op/formIn25.html

Danny
Thom White - 30 Jan 2008 00:17 GMT
> Doh! Of course you're right. In addition to what Thom says see here:
>
> http://www.storagereview.com/guide2000/ref/hdd/op/formIn25.html

Aww, you reminded me of the full-height ESDI 360meg Maxtor HD that cost
me a fortune, and died - noisily - during my second year at uni.
Thom White - 30 Jan 2008 00:02 GMT
> Nice. What does 2.5" x 1/8H mean (the 1/8H bit)?

One eighth of a 'height'.

A full 'height' hard drive was roughly the (vertical) size of 2 x 5.25"
floppy drives.

Thom
Andy Fraser - 30 Jan 2008 17:47 GMT
> > Nice. What does 2.5" x 1/8H mean (the 1/8H bit)?
>
> One eighth of a 'height'.
>
> A full 'height' hard drive was roughly the (vertical) size of 2 x 5.25"
> floppy drives.

Thanks Thom, Danny and Richard.

I'm guessing that these drives will be ok in a MacBook but if they're
not then let me know. I hope to be ordering something this weekend.
There was a time when I used to know this stuff like the back of my
hand. I'm getting so out of touch with hardware.

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David Kennedy - 30 Jan 2008 17:50 GMT
>>> Nice. What does 2.5" x 1/8H mean (the 1/8H bit)?
>> One eighth of a 'height'.
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> There was a time when I used to know this stuff like the back of my
> hand. I'm getting so out of touch with hardware.

If in doubt then check with www.ifixit.com where you'll also find some
useful "how to" guides.

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Andy Fraser - 30 Jan 2008 17:54 GMT
David Kennedy
<davidkennedy@nospamtodaythanksverymuchforthekindofferyoubastard.invalid
> wrote:

> >>> Nice. What does 2.5" x 1/8H mean (the 1/8H bit)?
> >> One eighth of a 'height'.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> If in doubt then check with www.ifixit.com where you'll also find some
> useful "how to" guides.

Thanks for that. ifixit confirms that that size drive will work in a
MacBook.

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Jaimie Vandenbergh - 29 Jan 2008 22:18 GMT
>I swapped my old 120Gb drive into a portable enclosure, which I got
>from Dabs for under a tenner, and which works fine without a power
>supply.

Can you give a pointer to this?

    Cheers - Jaimie
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Danny Thompson - 29 Jan 2008 23:39 GMT
On 29 Jan, 22:18, Jaimie Vandenbergh <jai...@sometimes.sessile.org>
wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 13:35:32 -0800 (PST), Danny Thompson
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Can you give a pointer to this?

http://www.dabs.com/ProductView.aspx?Quicklinx=4MMG

Sorry, in my enthusiasm I was approximately 50% mistaken about the
'under a tenner' bit :-)

I actually have a boxed, unused 2.5" IDE disk enclosure going for free
if anyone can use it.

Danny
Jaimie Vandenbergh - 30 Jan 2008 09:33 GMT
>On 29 Jan, 22:18, Jaimie Vandenbergh <jai...@sometimes.sessile.org>
>wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>Sorry, in my enthusiasm I was approximately 50% mistaken about the
>'under a tenner' bit :-)

Grin! Still, with eSATA too that's pretty good.

It would be better if any Macs had eSATA. Tch.

    Cheers - Jaimie
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James Dore - 30 Jan 2008 09:56 GMT
> >On 29 Jan, 22:18, Jaimie Vandenbergh <jai...@sometimes.sessile.org>
> >wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> It would be better if any Macs had eSATA. Tch.

Speaking of which, I just got a mail thru telling me my two Lacie eSata
cards had been shipped. I had ordered them in november....

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Jaimie Vandenbergh - 30 Jan 2008 10:08 GMT
>> It would be better if any Macs had eSATA. Tch.
>
>Speaking of which, I just got a mail thru telling me my two Lacie eSata
>cards had been shipped. I had ordered them in november....

Another quality delivery service! Who was that through, so we can
avoid them in future?

When they arrive, would you have a look at what chipset they are and
let us know? Then we can probably source near identical ones for a
fiver each.

    Cheers - Jaimie (too sensible to buy a Mac Pro for home)
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James Dore - 30 Jan 2008 11:54 GMT
> >> It would be better if any Macs had eSATA. Tch.
> >
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>
>       Cheers - Jaimie (too sensible to buy a Mac Pro for home)

'Twas the Appe Store (for education :-) - 'stock issues', apparently.
There are precisely two chips on the card, a flash memory chip (marked
'FLASH') and a Silicon Image chip - in fact the whole board looks to be
a Silicon Image product, which Lacie have OEM'd.

Cheers,
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Jaimie Vandenbergh - 30 Jan 2008 12:38 GMT
>> >> It would be better if any Macs had eSATA. Tch.
>> >
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>
>'Twas the Apple Store (for education :-) - 'stock issues', apparently.

"Oh, we haven't got any, no demand see. Yeah, they all sold out."

>There are precisely two chips on the card, a flash memory chip (marked
>'FLASH') and a Silicon Image chip - in fact the whole board looks to be
>a Silicon Image product, which Lacie have OEM'd.

No surprises there! Which SiI chips are they? There's a 4/5 digit
number to go along with it, oldest are SiI3112 I think.

    Cheers - Jaimie
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James Dore - 30 Jan 2008 14:22 GMT
> >> >> It would be better if any Macs had eSATA. Tch.
> >> >
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> No surprises there! Which SiI chips are they? There's a 4/5 digit
> number to go along with it, oldest are SiI3112 I think.

SiL 3132 CNU

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Jaimie Vandenbergh - 30 Jan 2008 14:43 GMT
>> >> >Speaking of which, I just got a mail thru telling me my two Lacie eSata
>> >> >cards had been shipped. I had ordered them in november....
[snip]
>> >There are precisely two chips on the card, a flash memory chip (marked
>> >'FLASH') and a Silicon Image chip - in fact the whole board looks to be
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>SiL 3132 CNU

Ace, thanks. I shall store that in my "cheap kit known to work in
Macs" folder.

    Cheers - Jaimie
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JohnB - 29 Jan 2008 22:28 GMT
> Hi,
>
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>
> Many thanks,

Andy - can't help personally, but take a look at the drive database at
"xlr8"

http://forums.xlr8yourmac.com/drivedb/search.drivedb.lasso

There are 37 reports from folks who have swapped Macbook drives.

--
JohnB
 
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