One good thing at least about 10.5's Finder
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Jim - 25 Oct 2007 09:30 GMT From <http://www.macworld.com/2007/10/firstlooks/leodraft/index.php?pf=1>
"Unix AutoFS
Why give up such a high draft pick for this seemingly obscure technology related to networked volumes? Because AutoFS in OS X 10.5 is, quite simply, a revolution. AutoFS is responsible for the mounting and dismounting of network shares, and in Leopard, it will uses separate .threads. for these tasks. What does that mean in English? It means the end of the spinning rainbow of doom you see when you, for instance, click on a network share in the Finder, only to remember that you put the shared computer to sleep earlier."
AT LAST!
It always annoyed me that 10.4 _still_ didn't have a properly threaded Finder.
Jim
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Peter Ceresole - 25 Oct 2007 09:34 GMT > AT LAST! Indeedy. An actual reason to get 10.5.
First time I've felt even a bit tempted.
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Jim - 25 Oct 2007 09:40 GMT >> AT LAST! > > Indeedy. An actual reason to get 10.5. > > First time I've felt even a bit tempted. Same here to be honest, but I'm still holding out until I hear how it performs on 1Ghz-ish G4s.
Besides - my G4 Powerbook had the two-finger-scrolling enabled via a 3rd party util and I'm damned if I'm losing that.
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Roger Merriman - 25 Oct 2007 09:58 GMT > >> AT LAST! > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Jim i will be intrested to see if it how well it works on my little powerbook, it's on the limit.
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Jim - 25 Oct 2007 10:05 GMT >> Same here to be honest, but I'm still holding out until I hear how it >> performs on 1Ghz-ish G4s. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > i will be intrested to see if it how well it works on my little > powerbook, it's on the limit. Be sure to let us all know, eh? :-)
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Roger Merriman - 25 Oct 2007 10:50 GMT > >> Same here to be honest, but I'm still holding out until I hear how it > >> performs on 1Ghz-ish G4s. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Be sure to let us all know, eh? :-) if i get it will install it fri/sat. but busy weekend lots to do!
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Jim - 25 Oct 2007 10:55 GMT >> > i will be intrested to see if it how well it works on my little >> > powerbook, it's on the limit. >> >> Be sure to let us all know, eh? :-) > > if i get it will install it fri/sat. but busy weekend lots to do! I'm away to Scotland on Sunday morning and won't be back until the following Saturday, so don't be surprised if I don't reply for a bit :-)
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Roger Merriman - 25 Oct 2007 18:40 GMT > >> > i will be intrested to see if it how well it works on my little > >> > powerbook, it's on the limit. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Jim heh, wiskey and familly?
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Jim - 25 Oct 2007 19:18 GMT > > > if i get it will install it fri/sat. but busy weekend lots to do! > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > heh, wiskey and familly? Yes and no; Yes to the whisky (Whisky Live show at the SECC), No to the family.
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Peter Ceresole - 25 Oct 2007 19:46 GMT > Yes to the whisky (Whisky Live show at the SECC), No to the > family. You're a hard man, Jim.
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Jim - 25 Oct 2007 19:51 GMT > > Yes to the whisky (Whisky Live show at the SECC), No to the > > family. > > You're a hard man, Jim. Well not really, they're in Hornsea.
Apart from my uncle, who's in Köln.
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Peter Ceresole - 25 Oct 2007 22:52 GMT > > You're a hard man, Jim. > > Well not really, they're in Hornsea. > > Apart from my uncle, who's in Köln. Very civilised, Köln. They have a MacDonalds just by the cathedral.
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Roger Merriman - 27 Oct 2007 14:39 GMT > > > > if i get it will install it fri/sat. but busy weekend lots to do! > > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Jim ah well hope your hangover resiliant! leotard seems fine speed wise, having to sit though hours of reindexing...
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Jim - 27 Oct 2007 14:43 GMT > > Yes and no; Yes to the whisky (Whisky Live show at the SECC), No to the > > family. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > ah well hope your hangover resiliant! leotard seems fine speed wise, > having to sit though hours of reindexing... Oddly enough, I'm not actually planning on getting completely wan...pis...drunk. It's considered bad form :-)
I wee tastie sample (you're allowed five) is all.
Mind you, depends on the size of the drams...
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Roger Merriman - 31 Oct 2007 13:29 GMT > > > Yes and no; Yes to the whisky (Whisky Live show at the SECC), No to the > > > family. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Oddly enough, I'm not actually planning on getting completely > wan...pis...drunk. It's considered bad form :-) i supose if you can't taste there isn't much point.
> I wee tastie sample (you're allowed five) is all. > > Mind you, depends on the size of the drams... well indeed.
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Steve Hodgson - 25 Oct 2007 19:09 GMT > I'm away to Scotland on Sunday morning and won't be back until the following > Saturday, so don't be surprised if I don't reply for a bit :-) SMWS?
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Jim - 25 Oct 2007 19:18 GMT > > I'm away to Scotland on Sunday morning and won't be back until the following > > Saturday, so don't be surprised if I don't reply for a bit :-) > > SMWS? Whisky Live at the SECC on the Friday, general mooching about Edinburgh and Glasgow for the rest.
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J. J. Lodder - 25 Oct 2007 12:41 GMT > > AT LAST! > > Indeedy. An actual reason to get 10.5. > > First time I've felt even a bit tempted. Butbutbut... I'm also filesharing to a Cube. We'll see in due time if that can be Leo-ed too, despite Apple's dictates about it.
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Martin S Taylor - 25 Oct 2007 13:38 GMT > We'll see in due time if that can be Leo-ed too, > despite Apple's dictates about it. What are Apple's dictates, and where can I read them?
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Jim - 25 Oct 2007 13:44 GMT >> We'll see in due time if that can be Leo-ed too, >> despite Apple's dictates about it. > > What are Apple's dictates, and where can I read them? From <http://www.apple.com/macosx/techspecs/> :
Mac computer with an Intel, PowerPC G5, or PowerPC G4 (867MHz or faster) processor
512MB of memory DVD drive for installation 9GB of available disk space Some features require a compatible Internet service provider; fees may apply. Some features require Apple's .Mac service; fees apply.
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Chris Ridd - 25 Oct 2007 13:50 GMT >>> We'll see in due time if that can be Leo-ed too, >>> despite Apple's dictates about it. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Mac computer with an Intel, PowerPC G5, or PowerPC G4 (867MHz or faster) > processor There are some additional requirements for certain features (iChat, Front Row, DVD Player, etc)
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J. J. Lodder - 25 Oct 2007 20:40 GMT [about a cube]
> >> We'll see in due time if that can be Leo-ed too, > >> despite Apple's dictates about it. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Mac computer with an Intel, PowerPC G5, or PowerPC G4 (867MHz or faster) > processor I guess (and hope) that this is just a recommendation, without the installer enforcing it. (like for example the 512 MB RAM for Tiger)
We'll see,
Jan
> 512MB of memory > DVD drive for installation [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Jim Jim - 25 Oct 2007 20:46 GMT > > Mac computer with an Intel, PowerPC G5, or PowerPC G4 (867MHz or faster) > > processor [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > We'll see, Even if it enforces it I expect the lads over at XPostFacto will be along shortly.
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Roger Merriman - 26 Oct 2007 09:41 GMT > > > Mac computer with an Intel, PowerPC G5, or PowerPC G4 (867MHz or faster) > > > processor [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Jim will need to be that, fairly sure i've read that it does check enforce.
though installing it on a drive and then fitting the drive would be okay i would guess.
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Jim - 26 Oct 2007 09:44 GMT >> > I guess (and hope) that this is just a recommendation, >> > without the installer enforcing it. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > though installing it on a drive and then fitting the drive would be okay > i would guess. Unless it does an on-boot system check. In which case it probably just flashes "nice try" and shuts down.
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Roger Merriman - 26 Oct 2007 10:14 GMT > >> > I guess (and hope) that this is just a recommendation, > >> > without the installer enforcing it. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Jim quess we'll find out soon enought.
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Woody - 26 Oct 2007 10:19 GMT >>>> > I guess (and hope) that this is just a recommendation, >>>> > without the installer enforcing it. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > quess we'll find out soon enought. Well, I have an 800MHz powerbook laying around here someplace, so I could try it
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Jim - 26 Oct 2007 10:23 GMT >> > though installing it on a drive and then fitting the drive would be okay >> > i would guess. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > quess we'll find out soon enought. Yep. Although I'm serious when I think it'll do a check-on-boot.
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J. J. Lodder - 26 Oct 2007 11:44 GMT > >> > I guess (and hope) that this is just a recommendation, > >> > without the installer enforcing it. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Unless it does an on-boot system check. In which case it probably just > flashes "nice try" and shuts down. Why would Apple want to do such a thing? It would make them very unpopular with some users. (as with the outcry over the next to last G4 towers being made OS X bootable only, just to force obsolescense)
The point of such a speed limit should be: "OK, do it if you insist, but don't cry with us about it being sluggish."
Anyway, this lack of clarity doesn't always work to their advantage. I do want to keep the old cube alive, and I hate minding different systems, so I won't touch Leo until this issue has been cleared up.
Best,
Jan
Peter - 31 Oct 2007 17:21 GMT > > >> > I guess (and hope) that this is just a recommendation, > > >> > without the installer enforcing it. [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > and I hate minding different systems, > so I won't touch Leo until this issue has been cleared up. You can install it on under-spec G4s by using FTM or install onto an HD that you then put into the G4.
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