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Tiger synchronisation wizard

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A. J. Moss - 24 Aug 2007 13:47 GMT
I have two Mac Minis (G4, 512MB, 80GB, SuperDrive) and a USB/Firewire
caddy for a desktop IDE hard disk. Someone I know wants to buy one of
these Mac Minis, buy only if he can transfer the files, preferences
and so on from his old machine, a B/W G3 running Tiger. He only kept
the 80GB desktop IDE hard disk from inside that machine.

There seem to be a number of ways to do this; I'd welcome suggestions
as to which is likely to be the best.
Steve Firth - 24 Aug 2007 14:09 GMT
> I have two Mac Minis (G4, 512MB, 80GB, SuperDrive) and a USB/Firewire
> caddy for a desktop IDE hard disk. Someone I know wants to buy one of
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> There seem to be a number of ways to do this; I'd welcome suggestions
> as to which is likely to be the best.

Easiest is to put his 80GB IDE drive into a USB2/Firewire enclosure.
That way he gets an external 80Gb drive after mucking about, and umm you
seem to have such an enclosure ready to hand.
A. J. Moss - 24 Aug 2007 18:41 GMT
> > I have two Mac Minis (G4, 512MB, 80GB, SuperDrive) and a USB/Firewire
> > caddy for a desktop IDE hard disk. Someone I know wants to buy one of
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> That way he gets an external 80Gb drive after mucking about, and umm you
> seem to have such an enclosure ready to hand.

It depends on how much mucking about is involved, to update the
original
install, to support a Mac Mini instead of (as well as?) a B/W G3.

If he wants the thing to boot off the internal drive, could I boot
from the
external drive and use the console "dd" command to clone the disk
contents from external to internal?
Jaimie Vandenbergh - 24 Aug 2007 19:31 GMT
>> > I have two Mac Minis (G4, 512MB, 80GB, SuperDrive) and a USB/Firewire
>> > caddy for a desktop IDE hard disk. Someone I know wants to buy one of
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>external drive and use the console "dd" command to clone the disk
>contents from external to internal?

No, not like that:

Put old disk into external thing.
Install OSX on Mini.
When it asks you if you want to migrate any users, plug external thing
into Mini.

Tada!

    Cheers - Jaimie
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Jaimie Vandenbergh - 24 Aug 2007 19:50 GMT
>Put old disk into external thing.
>Install OSX on Mini.
>When it asks you if you want to migrate any users, plug external thing
>into Mini.

Or use Firewire Target mode if the old machine can do that (old
machine acts as an enclosure for the drive, basically).

Or use Utilities/Migration Assistant on the Mini if you've already
installed OSX.

A combination of the above has had one Jaimie account plus bits'n'bobs
migrated from a G4 Mini to a G4 PB to two Intel MacBooks and from one
of those to an Intel Mini.

I was very impressed, several times.

    Cheers - Jaimie
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James Dore - 28 Aug 2007 10:30 GMT
> >Put old disk into external thing.
> >Install OSX on Mini.
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>
>       Cheers - Jaimie

I found using the migration assitant infinitely more useful than Target
Disk mode, or directly connecting the disk at install time. As in trying
at install time /never/ worked, and Migration assistant worked first
time. I was trying to go from a Powermac G5 to Mac Pro. Somthing about
the at-install-time migrate just didn't work.

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Jaimie Vandenbergh - 31 Aug 2007 17:22 GMT
>> Or use Firewire Target mode if the old machine can do that (old
>> machine acts as an enclosure for the drive, basically).
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>time. I was trying to go from a Powermac G5 to Mac Pro. Somthing about
>the at-install-time migrate just didn't work.

I've seen that too. I think it was probably due to the old machine
having a patched-up install, eg 10.4.10, while the new machine comes
with eg 10.4.6 on the install CD, and the installer-migrator gets
bemused by BOM differences or some such.

    Cheers - Jaimie
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J. J. Lodder - 25 Aug 2007 16:56 GMT
> I have two Mac Minis (G4, 512MB, 80GB, SuperDrive) and a USB/Firewire
> caddy for a desktop IDE hard disk. Someone I know wants to buy one of
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> There seem to be a number of ways to do this; I'd welcome suggestions
> as to which is likely to be the best.

The simplest, and arguebly the best,
is to buy a cheap ATA -> USB2 adapter.
It will connect any PATA or SATA device
(powered or unpowered) to the USB2 port.
About 15 € over here.

And once you have it you'll use it occasionally,
and be glad you have it.
It greatly simplifies changing a HD for example,
without needing a second machine and changing disks twice.

Best,

Jan
 
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