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Michelle Steiner - 16 Nov 2008 18:17 GMT

It's a newsreader for the iPhone and iPod Touch.

It now has threading and message filtering.

-- Michelle

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Charles - 16 Nov 2008 18:33 GMT

> It's a newsreader for the iPhone and iPod Touch.
>
> It now has threading and message filtering.

I updated it this morning was quite happy to see the filtering. I think
the application works quite nicely for a newsreader on a mobile device.
The main problem really is not the fault of the application. It is that
the iPhone does not have cut and paste.

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nospam - 16 Nov 2008 19:36 GMT

> The main problem really is not the fault of the application. It is that
> the iPhone does not have cut and paste.

what exactly do you need cut & paste for when reading news? i haven't
needed cut & paste when reading news on a mac, why would i need it on
an iphone?

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Jolly Roger - 16 Nov 2008 19:39 GMT

> > The main problem really is not the fault of the application. It is that
> > the iPhone does not have cut and paste.
>
> what exactly do you need cut & paste for when reading news? i haven't
> needed cut & paste when reading news on a mac, why would i need it on
> an iphone?

I'd hardly call it a hard requirement - just a nice-to-have. And that
applies to *any* iPhone application - not just NewsTap.

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nospam - 16 Nov 2008 20:00 GMT

> > > The main problem really is not the fault of the application. It is that
> > > the iPhone does not have cut and paste.
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> I'd hardly call it a hard requirement - just a nice-to-have. And that
> applies to *any* iPhone application - not just NewsTap.

sure it would be nice, but as apple has stated, there are other
features that have a higher priority. hows' bout that push
notification that will be released in september? :)

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Charles - 16 Nov 2008 20:07 GMT

> what exactly do you need cut & paste for when reading news? i haven't
> needed cut & paste when reading news on a mac, why would i need it on
> an iphone?

I need it when replying. When you do a followup in NewsTap all the text
and previously quoted text is copied. So I have to manually delete all
the text by single spaces to snip it down to the essential part I am
replying too.

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nospam - 16 Nov 2008 20:15 GMT

> > what exactly do you need cut & paste for when reading news? i haven't
> > needed cut & paste when reading news on a mac, why would i need it on
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> the text by single spaces to snip it down to the essential part I am
> replying too.

good point. however, that's not really needing cut/paste as much as it
is the ability to delete a large block of text. that is indeed an
issue, however, if you hold down the backspace key, it will start
deleting word by word after a second or two so it's not quite as
painful.

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Michelle Steiner - 17 Nov 2008 01:43 GMT

> > The main problem really is not the fault of the application. It is
> > that the iPhone does not have cut and paste.
>
> what exactly do you need cut & paste for when reading news? i
> haven't needed cut & paste when reading news on a mac, why would i
> need it on an iphone?

For selecting text to reply to when you're replying to different parts
of a message.

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Jolly Roger - 17 Nov 2008 05:35 GMT

> > > The main problem really is not the fault of the application. It is
>
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>
> of a message.

To me, selecting text is a precursor to copy and paste.

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nospam - 17 Nov 2008 05:50 GMT

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<1462531961248592081.034871jollyroger-pobox.com@news.individual.net>,

> > > what exactly do you need cut & paste for when reading news? i
> > > haven't needed cut & paste when reading news on a mac, why would i
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>
> To me, selecting text is a precursor to copy and paste.

agreed, this is a text selection issue, not copy/paste.

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Charles - 17 Nov 2008 13:03 GMT

> agreed, this is a text selection issue, not copy/paste.

Being able to highlight a text selection to be copied to the reply is
cut/copy and paste.

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Jolly Roger - 17 Nov 2008 15:16 GMT

> > agreed, this is a text selection issue, not copy/paste.
>
> Being able to highlight a text selection to be copied to the reply is
> cut/copy and paste.

No, because the application doesn't actually put the selected text on
the clipboard. The clipboard isn't used at all in that case.

That said, text selection is certainly necessary for copy and paste to
work.

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Michelle Steiner - 17 Nov 2008 14:23 GMT

In article
<1462531961248592081.034871jollyroger-pobox.com@news.individual.net>,

> > > what exactly do you need cut & paste for when reading news? i
> > > haven't needed cut & paste when reading news on a mac, why would
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> To me, selecting text is a precursor to copy and paste.

True, but I was answering the question of why one would need cut and
paste.

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Jolly Roger - 16 Nov 2008 18:35 GMT

> It's a newsreader for the iPhone and iPod Touch.
>
> It now has threading and message filtering.

Thanks for the heads-up. I think I'll give it a shot now.

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Jolly Roger - 16 Nov 2008 19:11 GMT

> > It's a newsreader for the iPhone and iPod Touch.
> >
> > It now has threading and message filtering.
>
> Thanks for the heads-up. I think I'll give it a shot now.

So far, I'm very pleased with it! It's compact, easy to use, and pretty
capable. There's room for improvement in some areas. But overall, not
bad at all!

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Jolly Roger - 16 Nov 2008 19:16 GMT

> > > It's a newsreader for the iPhone and iPod Touch.
> > >
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> capable. There's room for improvement in some areas. But overall, not
> bad at all!

Wow!! Has anyone else noticed the ultra-cool graphical thread tree
displayed when you click the header of an article?? Slick!

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Mike Rosenberg - 16 Nov 2008 19:55 GMT

> Wow!! Has anyone else noticed the ultra-cool graphical thread tree
> displayed when you click the header of an article?? Slick!

I've considered a graphical thread tree to be an essential part of my
Usenet experience since... hmmm, when exactly did I start using MacSOUP?

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Jolly Roger - 16 Nov 2008 22:39 GMT

> > Wow!! Has anyone else noticed the ultra-cool graphical thread tree
> > displayed when you click the header of an article?? Slick!
>
> I've considered a graphical thread tree to be an essential part of my
> Usenet experience since... hmmm, when exactly did I start using MacSOUP?

To be honest, I don't miss it in MT-NW. I wonder why...

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Biagio - 16 Nov 2008 20:18 GMT

Jolly Roger drukte met precisie uit:

>> It's a newsreader for the iPhone and iPod Touch.
>>
>> It now has threading and message filtering.

> Thanks for the heads-up. I think I'll give it a shot now.

Idd, *awesome*
I hope that the dev make a Mac OS X version too. And making it sycing
with the iPhone/iPod version ;-)

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Kurt Ullman - 16 Nov 2008 20:53 GMT

> It's a newsreader for the iPhone and iPod Touch.
>
> It now has threading and message filtering.
>
> -- Michelle

I use MTNW on my Macbook Pro most of the time. Does NT know what I
have read on MTNW? I might want to use this for "driveby" news when I am
out roaming around with my Touch, but not if each time I have to work
through everything that has been posted since last time I used NT.

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Mike Rosenberg - 16 Nov 2008 20:57 GMT

> I use MTNW on my Macbook Pro most of the time. Does NT know what I
> have read on MTNW?

How would it?

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Biagio - 16 Nov 2008 21:09 GMT

Mike Rosenberg bracht volgend idée uit:

>> I use MTNW on my Macbook Pro most of the time. Does NT know what I
>> have read on MTNW?

> How would it?

Like the way Charles said... i've just did it and it works well. :)

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Charles - 16 Nov 2008 21:15 GMT

> Mike Rosenberg bracht volgend idée uit:
> >> I use MTNW on my Macbook Pro most of the time. Does NT know what I
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>
> Like the way Charles said... i've just did it and it works well. :)

Good to know it works. I might switch back to MTNW......

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Biagio - 16 Nov 2008 21:18 GMT

Charles formuleerde op zondag:

>> Like the way Charles said... i've just did it and it works well. :)

> Good to know it works. I might switch back to MTNW......

Well, it loads the groups but not the messages :(
I just export it from MacSoup... maybe it works 100% for MT-NW?

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Charles - 16 Nov 2008 21:12 GMT

> > I use MTNW on my Macbook Pro most of the time. Does NT know what I
> > have read on MTNW?
>
> How would it?

Transferring Newsrc Files. I think MTNW can do that. Newstap has a Mac
app to do that.

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Mike Rosenberg - 16 Nov 2008 21:17 GMT

> > > I use MTNW on my Macbook Pro most of the time. Does NT know what I
> > > have read on MTNW?
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> Transferring Newsrc Files. I think MTNW can do that. Newstap has a Mac
> app to do that.

I can't speak for Kurt, of course, but I'm guessing he meant is there a
mechanism by which NT would automatically interact with MTNW and/or the
server so that reading an article in one will register it as read in the
other.

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Kurt Ullman - 17 Nov 2008 01:07 GMT

> > > > I use MTNW on my Macbook Pro most of the time. Does NT know what I
> > > > have read on MTNW?
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> server so that reading an article in one will register it as read in the
> other.

Yeah that would be best. But if it is something I can do in a minute
or two just before I leave home, that would be acceptable. Does the
newrc option fit that bill?
While planning ahead does go against everything I hold sacred, I can
do it on occasion if ABSOLUTELY necessary (g).

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Charles - 17 Nov 2008 03:37 GMT

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<kurtullman-5567A7.20072316112008@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net>, Kurt
Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Yeah that would be best. But if it is something I can do in a minute
> or two just before I leave home, that would be acceptable. Does the
> newrc option fit that bill?

Since NewsTap can import and export newsrc, and since MTNW can transfer
newsrc, theoretically it would be possible to synchronize them. Whether
it actually works between those two programs or how long it takes, or
if it is worth the effort is something I can't answer since I don't use
MTNW.

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Michelle Steiner - 17 Nov 2008 03:48 GMT

> Since NewsTap can import and export newsrc, and since MTNW can
> transfer newsrc, theoretically it would be possible to synchronize
> them. Whether it actually works between those two programs or how
> long it takes, or if it is worth the effort is something I can't
> answer since I don't use MTNW.

MewsTap has a backup tool for the Mac that lets you sync NewsTap with
MTNW. I find one problem with it, and that is based on my personal use.
I don't want to monitor every newsgroup on the iPhone; I just want to
read and post to a select few, but the sync/backup function will set
newstap to monitor every newsgroup I monitor with the Mac.

There are workarounds, using multiple newsrc files.

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Charles - 17 Nov 2008 04:24 GMT

> MewsTap has a backup tool for the Mac that lets you sync NewsTap with
> MTNW. I find one problem with it, and that is based on my personal use.
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>
> There are workarounds, using multiple newsrc files.

I guess you could create a separate group window with just the select
few newsgroups.

For my personal use I mainly want to read one newsgroup on the iPhone
if I am away from home a while and I don't have my Macbook Pro with me.
I don't think syncing is a major need for my use. What I do before
leaving home is catch up on the one newsgroup on my Mac and mark all
the posts as read on the iPhone. And vise versa when I get home.

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Michelle Steiner - 17 Nov 2008 05:00 GMT

> For my personal use I mainly want to read one newsgroup on the iPhone
> if I am away from home a while and I don't have my Macbook Pro with
> me. I don't think syncing is a major need for my use. What I do
> before leaving home is catch up on the one newsgroup on my Mac and
> mark all the posts as read on the iPhone. And vise versa when I get
> home.

That is what I do, too.

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Kurt Ullman - 17 Nov 2008 01:03 GMT

> > I use MTNW on my Macbook Pro most of the time. Does NT know what I
> > have read on MTNW?
>
> How would it?

That was sorta my question. I am guessing that it won't sync with MTNW
from the reply.

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Charles - 16 Nov 2008 21:02 GMT

In article
<kurtullman-3FF8D3.15532816112008@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net>, Kurt
Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I use MTNW on my Macbook Pro most of the time. Does NT know what I
> have read on MTNW? I might want to use this for "driveby" news when I am
> out roaming around with my Touch, but not if each time I have to work
> through everything that has been posted since last time I used NT.

I have not used MTNW for a while but if it still does "newsrc", NewsTap
has a backup application that will import and export "newsrc". I have
not tried that but I have backed up my subscriptions and preferences
over my home Wi-Fi network.

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