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DavidSteward - 06 Jul 2008 19:44 GMT
I want to establish video chat with a Windows Vista user. I normally
use iChat or Skype but he is unable to use iChat and unwilling to risk
installing Skype in case it disturbs Vista. Here I could make a
suitable comment about the average Windows user but I won't.

On Vista he uses MSN for video chat and instant messaging. How can I
contact him?

I can use text on Adium but it has no video facility.

I tested out Mercury on two iMacs using newly set up MSN accounts but
it does not do audio only video.

Which programs would anyone suggest that will give be video and audio
via an MSN account.

I have a 24" iMac and a 20" G5 iMac both using Mac OS X 10.5.4. Both
have built in iSight cameras.

David
Ruddell - 07 Jul 2008 17:23 GMT
> I want to establish video chat with a Windows Vista user. I normally
> use iChat or Skype but he is unable to use iChat and unwilling to risk
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> I have a 24" iMac and a 20" G5 iMac both using Mac OS X 10.5.4. Both
> have built in iSight cameras.

Why don't you just use the Mac version of MSN???

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Mike Rosenberg - 07 Jul 2008 18:57 GMT
> > I can use text on Adium but it has no video facility.
> >
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> Why don't you just use the Mac version of MSN???

Well, the lack of the video capability he mentioned several times would
be reason number one...

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Addictive - 07 Jul 2008 22:35 GMT
> > > I can use text on Adium but it has no video facility.
> > >
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> Well, the lack of the video capability he mentioned several times would
> be reason number one...

Hmmm, doesn't aMSN do video as well?

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Mike Rosenberg - 07 Jul 2008 22:52 GMT
> Hmmm, doesn't aMSN do video as well?

http://www.amsn-project.net/

Yes, it appears so.

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DavidSteward - 08 Jul 2008 15:11 GMT
On Jul 7, 10:52 pm, mikeP...@TOGROUPmacconsult.com (Mike Rosenberg)
wrote:
> > Hmmm, doesn't aMSN do video as well?
>
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> --

Yes aMSN does support video and I can use it to send and receive with
another iMac, but it will not do audio AND video.

David
DavidSteward - 08 Jul 2008 12:58 GMT
> > > > I can use text on Adium but it has no video facility.
>
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> September 15, 1996
Just downloaded and installed aMSN. As with MSN itself I can get video
but I can't get audio. I can see the caller but I can't hear them. It
seems rather pointless to have video and no audio.

To reiterate the problem. I want to communicate with video AND audio
to a PC user who has MSN. To test this out I am using two MSN accounts
to try to communicate between two Macs. All I get is video and no
audio. I have tried MSN software, aMSN and Mercury, all three give
video but not audio.

David
Calvin - 11 Jul 2008 23:46 GMT
> > > > I can use text on Adium but it has no video facility.
> > > >
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>
> Hmmm, doesn't aMSN do video as well?

Yes it does.  Not real well though.
DavidSteward - 07 Jul 2008 22:50 GMT
> Why don't you just use the Mac version of MSN???
>
> --
> Cheers!
>
> Dennis

I would use MSN but I can't work out how to use the iSight with it.
Also the MSN website states

"You cannot make audio or video calls from a personal account or to
contacts on the Windows Live, Yahoo, or AOL networks."

Any help on how to set up MSN for a video and audio chat would be most
welcome.

David
DavidSteward - 08 Jul 2008 12:59 GMT
> On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 12:44:54 -0600, DavidSteward wrote
> (in article
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Because it does video only and I would like audio as well.

David
Jolly Roger - 07 Jul 2008 23:01 GMT
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> Which programs would anyone suggest that will give be video and audio
> via an MSN account.

You might try to convince your friend to switch to AIM. From what I
remember, AIM video is supported by more services and software than MSN.
For once, iChat supports it.

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DavidSteward - 08 Jul 2008 15:15 GMT
> You might try to convince your friend to switch to AIM. From what I
> remember, AIM video is supported by more services and software than MSN.
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>
> JR

He will not switch as he is frightened to risk anything that may
disturb Vista. I can appreciate his fear of tampering with Windows.

The problem would be solved if he switched to Skype or an AIM based
account. But he will not attempt the switch.

David
Gene E. Bloch - 09 Jul 2008 00:38 GMT
On 7/08/2008, DavidSteward posted this:
>> You might try to convince your friend to switch to AIM. From what I
>> remember, AIM video is supported by more services and software than MSN.
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>
> David

I would have said "using Windows", rather than "tampering with
Windows", but what do I know?

But to be constructive: I recall that there are IM integrators,
programs that let you communicate with a variety of IM programs in a
single interface, and I believe there are some that work on a Mac.
Perhaps one of those would work as you desire...

Disclosure: I *never* use IM, so the above qualifies as hearsay only -
but if I'm not too far off, it might help :-)

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Calvin - 11 Jul 2008 23:50 GMT
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<f5f77529-f40a-4cbb-acce-39f44399a777@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,

>  > You might try to convince your friend to switch to AIM. From what I
> > remember, AIM video is supported by more services and software than MSN.
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>
> David

David,

I have an HP Pavillion dv6000 laptop running Vista Home Premium.  (It
was a gift to myself).

At home I have a intel based Mini.  Both have Skype installed.  I was
able to video & audio chat with my wife in St. Paul on the Mini while I
was in Maryland, on the HP, a few weeks ago.  Works great.  Skype does
not corrupt Vista.
Jamie Kahn Genet - 12 Jul 2008 07:52 GMT
> I want to establish video chat with a Windows Vista user. I normally
> use iChat or Skype but he is unable to use iChat and unwilling to risk
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> David

Tell him to just conquer his fears install Skype anyway. It works fine
under Vista IME.

Regards,
Jamie Kahn Genet
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