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Mac Forum / General / Networking / April 2008MT-NW Error code -1857?
I am test driving a McAlley Bluetooth mouse on a OSX 10.5.2 powered iMaca and I get Error code -1857 when i tried to click or double-click when using MT-NW 3.5. Anyone know what's going on? > I am test driving a McAlley Bluetooth mouse on a OSX 10.5.2 powered > iMaca and I get Error code -1857 when i tried to click or double-click > when using MT-NW 3.5. > > Anyone know what's going on? Just a hunch, but likely it's the same issue as when you posted about the same error code last November: http://preview.tinyurl.com/3j87tu  Signature<http://designsbymike.net/shop/mac.cgi> Mac and geek T-shirts & gifts <http://designsbymike.net/election.shtml> Election 2008 goods. <http://designsbymike.net/shop/prius.cgi> Prius shirts/bumper stickers <http://designsbymike.net/shop/greet.cgi> Holiday cards with attitude > > I am test driving a McAlley Bluetooth mouse on a OSX 10.5.2 powered > > iMaca and I get Error code -1857 when i tried to click or double-click [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > http://preview.tinyurl.com/3j87tu You have a helluva memory... SignatureHelp improve usenet. Kill-file Google Groups. http://improve-usenet.org/ > > > I am test driving a McAlley Bluetooth mouse on a OSX 10.5.2 > > > powered iMaca and I get Error code -1857 when i tried to click or [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > You have a helluva memory... And aRKay apparently doesn't. SignatureSupport the troops: Bring them home ASAP. > > > > I am test driving a McAlley Bluetooth mouse on a OSX 10.5.2 > > > > powered iMaca and I get Error code -1857 when i tried to click or [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > And aRKay apparently doesn't. Thank you for the reminder and link to the definition that says error -1857 dragNotAcceptedErr: handler not found and I still don't know what that means. Guess I will just have to use something other than the Macalley BT mouse to read MT-NW messages. In article <arkayREMOVE-A9657E.14424114042008@news.houston.sbcglobal.net>, > > > > > I am test driving a McAlley Bluetooth mouse on a OSX 10.5.2 > > > > > powered iMaca and I get Error code -1857 when i tried to click or [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > and I still don't know what that means. It means MT-NewsWatcher looked at what was being dragged and did not find what it considered to be acceptable content for that window. I'm sure the fix for this bug involved tweaking just what sort of content MT-NewsWatcher looks for in dragged items. SignaturePlease send all responses to the relevant news group. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. I do not read posts from Google Groups. Use a real news reader if you want me to see your posts. JR > In article > <arkayREMOVE-A9657E.14424114042008@news.houston.sbcglobal.net>, [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > sure the fix for this bug involved tweaking just what sort of content > MT-NewsWatcher looks for in dragged items. Very interesting..... I just upgraded MT-NW from 3.5.3b1 to 3.5.3b2 and the error is history! The Macalley BT mouse is working with MT-NW Thanks to all for the help! > > Just a hunch, but likely it's the same issue as when you posted about > > the same error code last November: > > > > http://preview.tinyurl.com/3j87tu > > You have a helluva memory... Oh, if I had simply read the original thread I doubt I would have the slightest recollection. However, the fact that I not only posted to the thread but did a Google search on behalf of the OP anchored it in my mind. Signature<http://designsbymike.net/shop/mac.cgi> Mac and geek T-shirts & gifts <http://designsbymike.net/election.shtml> Election 2008 goods. <http://designsbymike.net/shop/prius.cgi> Prius shirts/bumper stickers <http://designsbymike.net/shop/greet.cgi> Holiday cards with attitude > > I am test driving a McAlley Bluetooth mouse on a OSX 10.5.2 powered > > iMaca and I get Error code -1857 when i tried to click or double-click [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > http://preview.tinyurl.com/3j87tu Thanks for the reminder. At that time I thought it may be caused by have one of my OSX mouse settings too high. The temp fix was to change the setting. I then developed another problem with the right-click sticking and the Apple Store replaced the Mighty Mouse as it did the same thing on their Mac. I have no issues with the Apple Mighty Mouse. It works fine with MT-NW. The issue error code -1857 seems to be unique to the the Macalley BT Mouse. I have messed with all of the Leopard Mouse settings, including the latest new Macally Input Manager v1.2, and the only solution I have found it use the Apple Mighty Mouse with MT-NW. 3.5.3b1 and to forget about using the Macalley BT Mouse. In article <arkayREMOVE-F11C8E.06551614042008@news.houston.sbcglobal.net>, aRKay <arkayREMOVE@qsl.net> wrote: > I am test driving a McAlley Bluetooth mouse on a OSX 10.5.2 powered > iMaca and I get Error code -1857 when i tried to click or double-click > when using MT-NW 3.5. > > Anyone know what's going on? I'm seeing the same thing in Thoth as of my upgrade to OS X 10.5. What's happening is that you're dragging slightly on an aticle name and releasing in the same window, and for some reason it's throwing that error. Interesting that it's happening in both MTNW and Thoth... Brian Clark swears there's no common code between the two. SignatureHelp improve usenet. Kill-file Google Groups. http://improve-usenet.org/ > Interesting that it's happening in both MTNW and Thoth... Brian Clark > swears there's no common code between the two. It might be a system error. By the way, I can't duplicate the problem; I dragged an article name and released it in the same window; all that happened was that the outline snapped back to the starting point. SignatureSupport the troops: Bring them home ASAP. > > Interesting that it's happening in both MTNW and Thoth... Brian Clark > > swears there's no common code between the two. > > It might be a system error. It's definitely a Mac OS error code. Signature<http://designsbymike.net/shop/mac.cgi> Mac and geek T-shirts & gifts <http://designsbymike.net/election.shtml> Election 2008 goods. <http://designsbymike.net/shop/prius.cgi> Prius shirts/bumper stickers <http://designsbymike.net/shop/greet.cgi> Holiday cards with attitude > > Interesting that it's happening in both MTNW and Thoth... Brian Clark > > swears there's no common code between the two. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > released it in the same window; all that happened was that the outline > snapped back to the starting point. You're using MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.3b2 and the OP is using 3.5.3b1... I wonder if there was a fix between versions. SignatureHelp improve usenet. Kill-file Google Groups. http://improve-usenet.org/ > You're using MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.3b2 and the OP is using 3.5.3b1... I > wonder if there was a fix between versions. Good point. There may have been. SignatureSupport the troops: Bring them home ASAP. > > > Interesting that it's happening in both MTNW and Thoth... Brian Clark > > > swears there's no common code between the two. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > You're using MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.3b2 and the OP is using 3.5.3b1... I > wonder if there was a fix between versions. Crap. I'm apparently using 3.5.2 and see this error. I thought I had installed the beta. BRB! :) SignaturePlease send all responses to the relevant news group. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. I do not read posts from Google Groups. Use a real news reader if you want me to see your posts. JR > > > > Interesting that it's happening in both MTNW and Thoth... Brian Clark > > > > swears there's no common code between the two. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Crap. I'm apparently using 3.5.2 and see this error. I thought I had > installed the beta. BRB! :) Sure enough, after upgrading to 3.5.3 beta, the error is gone. So I suppose MT-NewsWatcher has the bug fixed, while Thoth does not. Perhaps Brian can ask Simon nicely for the fix. *grin* SignaturePlease send all responses to the relevant news group. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. I do not read posts from Google Groups. Use a real news reader if you want me to see your posts. JR > Sure enough, after upgrading to 3.5.3 beta, the error is gone. So I > suppose MT-NewsWatcher has the bug fixed, while Thoth does not. So we're back to wondering why two programs with supposedly no common code both had the same error as the result of a Mac OS upgrade. Signature<http://designsbymike.net/shop/mac.cgi> Mac and geek T-shirts & gifts <http://designsbymike.net/election.shtml> Election 2008 goods. <http://designsbymike.net/shop/prius.cgi> Prius shirts/bumper stickers <http://designsbymike.net/shop/greet.cgi> Holiday cards with attitude > > Sure enough, after upgrading to 3.5.3 beta, the error is gone. So I > > suppose MT-NewsWatcher has the bug fixed, while Thoth does not. > > So we're back to wondering why two programs with supposedly no common > code both had the same error as the result of a Mac OS upgrade. I'm not wondering. ; ) SignaturePlease send all responses to the relevant news group. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. I do not read posts from Google Groups. Use a real news reader if you want me to see your posts. JR > > Sure enough, after upgrading to 3.5.3 beta, the error is gone. So I > > suppose MT-NewsWatcher has the bug fixed, while Thoth does not. > > So we're back to wondering why two programs with supposedly no common > code both had the same error as the result of a Mac OS upgrade. With apologies to The Monotones, I present a humble offering: Oh, I wonder, wonder who, mmbadoo-ooh, who Who wrote the bulk of the code? Well tell me, tell me baby Who wrote the bulk of the code? I've got to know the answer Was it someone from above? Oh, I wonder, wonder who, mmbadoo-ooh, who Who wrote the Book of Code? I love that old Newswatcher Baby, you know I do But I've got to see the bulk of the code Find out whose story's true Oh, I wonder, wonder who, mmbadoo-ooh, who Who wrote the the bulk of the code? Chapter One says it was Norstad Norstad with all his heart Chapter Two he tells us He's giving, giving, giving away every part In Chapter Three remember the meaning of open source In Chapter Four Brian burns us But he swears that its all his code Oh, I wonder, wonder who, mmbadoo-ooh, who Who wrote the bulk of the code? Usenet, usenet, usenet I love you, yes I do Well it says so in the bulk of the code Is Brian's the one that's true? Oh, I wonder, wonder who, mmbadoo-ooh, who Who wrote the bulk of the code? Chapter One says it was Norstad Norstad with all his heart Chapter Two he tells us He's giving, giving, giving away every part In Chapter Three remember the meaning of open source In Chapter Four Brian burns us But he swears that its all his code Oh, I wonder, wonder who, mmbadoo-ooh, who Who wrote the bulk of the code? Usenet, usenet, usenet I love you, yes I do Well it says so in the bulk of the code Is Brian's the one that's true? Oh, I wonder, wonder who, mmbadoo-ooh, who Who wrote the bulk of the code? SignatureHelp improve usenet. Kill-file Google Groups. http://improve-usenet.org/ > > Sure enough, after upgrading to 3.5.3 beta, the error is gone. So I > > suppose MT-NewsWatcher has the bug fixed, while Thoth does not. > > So we're back to wondering why two programs with supposedly no common > code both had the same error as the result of a Mac OS upgrade. That is simple, because they BOTH have to use the SAME System Calls, and they BOTH used the SAME Parameter in that call, and the System change cause that Call, with that Parameter, to BREAK......Duh...... > > > Sure enough, after upgrading to 3.5.3 beta, the error is gone. So I > > > suppose MT-NewsWatcher has the bug fixed, while Thoth does not. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > and they BOTH used the SAME Parameter in that call, and the System change > cause that Call, with that Parameter, to BREAK......Duh...... Nope. I've written Mac applications long enough to know the probable causes of this particular Drag Manager error. Like I said, this is likely a bug in the code that examines the content of the drag. SignaturePlease send all responses to the relevant news group. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. I do not read posts from Google Groups. Use a real news reader if you want me to see your posts. JR > > So we're back to wondering why two programs with supposedly no common > > code both had the same error as the result of a Mac OS upgrade. > > That is simple, because they BOTH have to use the SAME System Calls, > and they BOTH used the SAME Parameter in that call, and the System change > cause that Call, with that Parameter, to BREAK......Duh...... Okay, but now explain how the same action in other programs doesn't give the same error message, and that includes other newsreaders. Signature<http://designsbymike.net/shop/mac.cgi> Mac and geek T-shirts & gifts <http://designsbymike.net/election.shtml> Election 2008 goods. <http://designsbymike.net/shop/prius.cgi> Prius shirts/bumper stickers <http://designsbymike.net/shop/greet.cgi> Holiday cards with attitude > > Interesting that it's happening in both MTNW and Thoth... Brian Clark > > swears there's no common code between the two. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > released it in the same window; all that happened was that the outline > snapped back to the starting point. I only have the problem with the MacAlley BT mouse. No issue with the Apple mouse. I cannot read any MT-NW postings using the MacAlley mouse and just installed their Macally Input Manager v1.2.dmg > I only have the problem with the MacAlley BT mouse. No issue with the > Apple mouse. I cannot read any MT-NW postings using the MacAlley mouse > and just installed their Macally Input Manager v1.2.dmg And the reason you don't suspect that the solution might just possibly be the same as the one you came up with when you had this problem in November is what exactly? Signature<http://designsbymike.net/shop/mac.cgi> Mac and geek T-shirts & gifts <http://designsbymike.net/election.shtml> Election 2008 goods. <http://designsbymike.net/shop/prius.cgi> Prius shirts/bumper stickers <http://designsbymike.net/shop/greet.cgi> Holiday cards with attitude > > I only have the problem with the MacAlley BT mouse. No issue with the > > Apple mouse. I cannot read any MT-NW postings using the MacAlley mouse [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > be the same as the one you came up with when you had this problem in > November is what exactly? No because in Nov the problem was a defective Apple Mighty Mouse that was fixed when the Apple Store exchanged the defective mouse for a new mouse. i just obtained the Macalley BT Mouse from a friend and it gives me the error code -1857 ONLY when I try to click on a MT-NW message. It is 100% repeatable. Do you know what error -1857 means? > > And the reason you don't suspect that the solution might just possibly > > be the same as the one you came up with when you had this problem in [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Do you know what error -1857 means? In November, you yourself told us, based on the error code list I found and posted for you, that it means: error -1857 dragNotAcceptedErr: handler not found You also posted that the solution was: "I had the Mouse Sys Prefs double-click option set to fastest up against the right peg. When i moved it to between 1/2 and 3/4 scale, no more errors and that solved the double-click issues." You concluded by stating: "My advice for anyone that reads this is to check you Mouse option and do not run it at MAX." So, again I ask, the reason you don't suspect that the solution might just possibly be the same as the one you came up with when you had this problem in November is what exactly? Have you checked the same setting that fixed the problem last time and determined already that it won't fix the problem again this time? Signature<http://designsbymike.net/shop/mac.cgi> Mac and geek T-shirts & gifts <http://designsbymike.net/election.shtml> Election 2008 goods. <http://designsbymike.net/shop/prius.cgi> Prius shirts/bumper stickers <http://designsbymike.net/shop/greet.cgi> Holiday cards with attitude > > > And the reason you don't suspect that the solution might just possibly > > > be the same as the one you came up with when you had this problem in [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > "My advice for anyone that reads this is to check you Mouse option and > do not run it at MAX." My mouse Double-Click setting is set to three *under* the fastest notch, and I get this error any time I drag an article in a MT-NewsWatcher window. SignaturePlease send all responses to the relevant news group. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. I do not read posts from Google Groups. Use a real news reader if you want me to see your posts. JR In article <arkayREMOVE-AB7871.13351814042008@news.houston.sbcglobal.net>, aRKay <arkayREMOVE@qsl.net> wrote: > > > Interesting that it's happening in both MTNW and Thoth... Brian Clark > > > swears there's no common code between the two. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Apple mouse. I cannot read any MT-NW postings using the MacAlley mouse > and just installed their Macally Input Manager v1.2.dmg It happens here with the trackpad, and a Microsoft Explorer mouse. SignatureHelp improve usenet. Kill-file Google Groups. http://improve-usenet.org/ > > > By the way, I can't duplicate the problem; I dragged an article name and > > > released it in the same window; all that happened was that the outline [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > It happens here with the trackpad, and a Microsoft Explorer mouse. I just tried it for myself with MT-NW, and it happens here as well, with a Kensington TurboMouse trackball and with standard old single-button Apple optical mouse I have lying around. Signature<http://designsbymike.net/shop/mac.cgi> Mac and geek T-shirts & gifts <http://designsbymike.net/election.shtml> Election 2008 goods. <http://designsbymike.net/shop/prius.cgi> Prius shirts/bumper stickers <http://designsbymike.net/shop/greet.cgi> Holiday cards with attitude > > > > By the way, I can't duplicate the problem; I dragged an article name and > > > > released it in the same window; all that happened was that the outline [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > a Kensington TurboMouse trackball and with standard old single-button > Apple optical mouse I have lying around. Now try it with 3.5.3 beta. SignaturePlease send all responses to the relevant news group. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. I do not read posts from Google Groups. Use a real news reader if you want me to see your posts. JR > I just tried it for myself with MT-NW, and it happens here as well, with > a Kensington TurboMouse trackball and with standard old single-button > Apple optical mouse I have lying around. What version of MT-NW? SignatureHelp improve usenet. Kill-file Google Groups. http://improve-usenet.org/ > > I just tried it for myself with MT-NW, and it happens here as well, with > > a Kensington TurboMouse trackball and with standard old single-button > > Apple optical mouse I have lying around. > > What version of MT-NW? It was 3.5.2 which I just happened to have on hand. Now I've just downloaded 3.5.3b2 and there's no error. Signature<http://designsbymike.net/shop/mac.cgi> Mac and geek T-shirts & gifts <http://designsbymike.net/election.shtml> Election 2008 goods. <http://designsbymike.net/shop/prius.cgi> Prius shirts/bumper stickers <http://designsbymike.net/shop/greet.cgi> Holiday cards with attitude > > Interesting that it's happening in both MTNW and Thoth... Brian Clark > > swears there's no common code between the two. > > It might be a system error. It's a Carbon error: dragNotAcceptedErr = -1857, /* drag was not accepted by receiver */ > By the way, I can't duplicate the problem; I dragged an article name and > released it in the same window; all that happened was that the outline > snapped back to the starting point. I can duplicate it faithfully. SignaturePlease send all responses to the relevant news group. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. I do not read posts from Google Groups. Use a real news reader if you want me to see your posts. JR > > By the way, I can't duplicate the problem; I dragged an article > > name and released it in the same window; all that happened was that > > the outline snapped back to the starting point. > > I can duplicate it faithfully. Well, as you've probably seen by now, it's fixed in MTNW 3.5.3 beta. SignatureSupport the troops: Bring them home ASAP. > Interesting that it's happening in both MTNW and Thoth... Brian Clark > swears there's no common code between the two. OOPS! ; ) SignaturePlease send all responses to the relevant news group. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. I do not read posts from Google Groups. Use a real news reader if you want me to see your posts. JR |
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