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Computer says it can't initialize the modem.

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DJW - 15 Jul 2007 15:54 GMT
Computer says it can't initialize the modem.
I am running OS 8.6 on a computer that was able to connect to the
Internet using a USR sportster external modem dial up connection over
a year ago. Recently I tried for the first time in that long period to
get on the net. I don't remember changing any thing since then but now
some lights on the modem flash and I get an error message that it
failed to initialize and to turn the modem off and on or check the
settings. I have tried both. What is going on during a successful
modem initiation sequence. Does it involve the modem command string?
Where or what should I try next?
Jim Beard - 15 Jul 2007 20:45 GMT
> Computer says it can't initialize the modem.
> I am running OS 8.6 on a computer that was able to connect to the
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> modem initiation sequence. Does it involve the modem command string?
> Where or what should I try next?

Check your connections.

Check your modem command string.

Check your networking to see if it is still set up
for an external modem.

If possible, go to a terminal window and invoke
software that will allow you to communicate direct
to the modem (minicom is one such program, but I do
not know what is available/will run under the old
Mac OS).

If at&v returns your modem settings, check them against
your modem manual (if you still have it).  If not,
try running ati4 and maybe ati3, ati2, ati1, and ati0
to get information.  If at&v and the ati commands
work, your problem is likely in your network settings.
If they do not, you may have a hardware problem, or
networking software may not know where to find your
modem.

Cheers!

jim b.

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Art Beattie - 16 Jul 2007 12:12 GMT
> > Computer says it can't initialize the modem.
> > I am running OS 8.6 on a computer that was able to connect to the
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> networking software may not know where to find your
> modem.

If the modem was left connected to a phone line, it is possible that a
lightning strike took it out. The lightning doesn't have to hit in the
immediate neighborhood. I lost 2 modems this way. I now disconnect all
modems if I hear thunder or leave the house or sleep, and thunder storms
are predicted. There is a lighning arrester in the demark box which
connects the network to your house wiring as there is on mine. It is
only good enough for to protect phones. Nor do I trust the phone line
protectors in power strips; they are usually just inline fuses and may
not act fast enough.

Good luck.
DJW - 16 Jul 2007 15:09 GMT
> > > Computer says it can't initialize the modem.
> > > I am running OS 8.6 on a computer that was able to connect to the
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>
> - Show quoted text -

I have checked the connections and now since the first post tried
another external modem with the same results. Incidentally I always
unplug my modems after each use so that modem was indeed unplugged for
that long period of time that I had not used it. In the modem control
panel I switched to the two different modems that I have now tried. Is
that what directs it to the control string commands? I do remember
that I used to be able to select or write and save the command
strings? It has been so long since I have used an older Mac that I
have forgotten all the stuff I used to know and need help to refresh
my memory. Will try the terminal window connect if I remember how. Can
I just try a dialer or a program like I think it was called zterm?
Art Beattie - 18 Jul 2007 01:25 GMT
> > > > Computer says it can't initialize the modem.
> > > > I am running OS 8.6 on a computer that was able to connect to the
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> my memory. Will try the terminal window connect if I remember how. Can
> I just try a dialer or a program like I think it was called zterm?

I remember using zterm (I have version 0.9) to connect with the modem to
prove that it worked OK. But it has been a while so I don't remember
specifics. Typing in the command strings pointed out by a previous
responder sounds like a good starting point. The modem should respond
with or without a phone line connected to it. I don't remember if you
can, but you might try the other serial port.
Good luck.
w_tom - 18 Jul 2007 03:46 GMT
> I have checked the connections and now since the first post tried
> another external modem with the same results. Incidentally I always
> unplug my modems after each use so that modem was indeed unplugged for
> that long period of time that I had not used it. In the modem control
> panel I switched to the two different modems that I have now tried. Is
> that what directs it to the control string commands?

 Break the problem down into parts.  First disconnect the modem.
Jumper that serial port plug pin 2 to 3.  What is typed into the
terminal program should pass through that jumper and then appear on
screen.  That simply confirms computer serial port may talk to modem.

 Then repeat that same test this time connecting directly to the
modem.

 This time, enter the AT%F command (followed by enter). Then every AT
command sent to modem's computer should be echoed back to screen.
This confirmed computer serial port talks to modem's internal
computer.

 Next step is to issue AT command to modem so that modem can see (and
report) a connection to phone line.

 Based upon what was posted, at this point you should have identified
the failure because you stepped through the problem part by part.
 
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