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Mac Forum / General / Networking / November 2006Is there a future for Safari?
Having a quick look at the Apple Leopard sneak peak, there doesn't seem to be much mention about Safari? I wonder if Apple are thinking / planning to scale back work on this and encourage people to use Firefox? > Having a quick look at the Apple Leopard sneak peak, there doesn't seem > to be much mention about Safari? > I wonder if Apple are thinking / planning to scale back work on this > and encourage people to use Firefox? When Leopard was introduced only the basics were disclosed with the hint that there are several features not yet reported. So I would not make any judgement on the future of any feature until Leopard is released next Spring. Having no Microsoft apps on my iMac, I wonder why there is little or no noise out of Apple about Camino. After all, its a browser specifically created for Mac OS 10.x.x. Just a thought George (The Old Fud)  SignatureI know that you believe that you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant. -- Robert McCloskey, State Department spokesman (attributed) > Having no Microsoft apps on my iMac, I wonder why there is little or no > noise out of Apple about Camino. > > After all, its a browser specifically created for Mac OS 10.x.x. By that logic, you should be wondering about the thousands of other applications that are specifically created for Mac OS X that Apple makes no noise about. SignatureMy personal UDP list: 127.0.0.1, 4ax.com, buzzardnews.com, googlegroups.com, heapnode.com, localhost, x-privat.org > Having no Microsoft apps on my iMac, I wonder why there is little or no > noise out of Apple about Camino. Why should there be noise out of Apple about _any_ browser other than Safari? Signature<http://designsbymike.biz/macconsultshop.shtml> Mac-themed T-shirts <http://designsbymike.biz/musings.shtml> Mostly muckraking T-shirts <http://designsbymike.biz/prius.shtml> Prius shirts & bumper stickers <http://cafepress.com/comedancing> Ballroom dance-themed shirts & gift > Having no Microsoft apps on my iMac, I wonder why there is little or no > noise out of Apple about Camino. Um, because they have their own browser to tout? > After all, its a browser specifically created for Mac OS 10.x.x. Kinda. Under the hood, it's the open-source Mozilla web toolkit, same as in FireFox (which also has a very nice Mac OS X version). Safari has had improvement in the last major OS release, and there's no reason to think they won't continue that trend, not just in the Safari app, but also in Apple's own WebKit, which provides the under-the-hood funtionality which makes Safari possible (as well as a couple of other browsers which use the built-in rendering (ie. Shiira, OmniWeb)). Meanwhile, there are several others which do not use Apple's Webkit stuff - Firefox/Camino, iCab, Opera. And it's in all of our bests interests to urge those developers to keep workin on their stuff, too - if we're left with only Apple's safari, we could be in trouble. Moreover, there have been more than one time where a website I want to use works much better in on browser or another. 99% of the time, these days, I'm using Camino, but there are exceptions. I'm sure Safari-heavy users have similar exceptions. SignaturePlain Bread alone for e-mail, thanks. The rest gets trashed. No HTML in E-Mail! -- http://www.expita.com/nomime.html Are you posting responses that are easy for others to follow? http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/2000/06/14/quoting In article <everyday-01F921.18022006112006@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com>, > > Having a quick look at the Apple Leopard sneak peak, there doesn't seem > > to be much mention about Safari? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > any judgement on the future of any feature until Leopard is released > next Spring. More to the point, Leopard was previewed at a developer conference and so the features shown all pretty much involved added work by developers to get the most out of them. Odds are against any radical changes to Safari that require significant third party developer support. SignatureMy personal UDP list: 127.0.0.1, 4ax.com, buzzardnews.com, googlegroups.com, heapnode.com, localhost, x-privat.org > Having a quick look at the Apple Leopard sneak peak, there doesn't seem > to be much mention about Safari? > I wonder if Apple are thinking / planning to scale back work on this > and encourage people to use Firefox? I'm curious what might lead one to infer that there's any reasonable chance of that? There's not much mention of a lot of not-new features and behaviors in Leopard. SignatureThe best intentions in the world don't make a flawed argument magically valid. [...] > I wonder if Apple are thinking / planning to scale back work on this > and encourage people to use Firefox? Unlikely. Apple likes to say that Safar is gaining browsermarket-share; Safari (WebKit) is running on mobile devices now, which means it's probably making Apple money; Apple is actively particpating in WHATWG (an attempt at defining HTML5). SignatureSander Tekelenburg, <http://www.euronet.nl/~tekelenb/> Mac user: "Macs only have 40 viruses, tops!" PC user: "SEE! Not even the virus writers support Macs!" > Having a quick look at the Apple Leopard sneak peak, there doesn't seem > to be much mention about Safari? > I wonder if Apple are thinking / planning to scale back work on this > and encourage people to use Firefox? Or Shiira, Camino or Omniweb. I even prefer iCab to Firefox. SignatureIf you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate. |
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