I am setting up a small business. I have a DSL PPOE account and
purchased a wireless router. I have one laptop that is wireless, 2
computers and 1 LAN printer that have NICs for wired lines.
This network presently is working well for me; all my PC's can share
files from each other, etc..
Now the fun part (this is where I need your help): I want to allow my
customers to bring their laptops into my store and wirelessly surf the
web while service is being performed on their cars.
What can/should I do in order to maintain a secure LAN network for my
computers (which includes one wirelss laptop) yet enable public
wireless access for my customers? I'm not sure what to do.
Thanks!
Mark
> I am setting up a small business. I have a DSL PPOE account and
> purchased a wireless router. I have one laptop that is wireless, 2
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> Thanks!
> Mark
I run a MicroISP via both Wired and WiFi Access, and you problem is
not new. there are a few things that can be done to deal with the
Access Issues.
For wireless:
1. Buy Wireless Routers that have MAC Address Access Capability and
then when each customer comes in, enter his WiFi MAC Address into the
Routers Access List. This still allows you to use DCHP for AutoSetup
Negotiations, but restricts access to just those customers that you have
entered. The drawback is that you have to get each laptops MAC Address,
and load it into the router, the first time they use your network.
2. Use Static IP Adressing for each customers Laptop, and have your
wireless subnet, on a non-default IP Subnet.
For wired:
1. Some routers allow you to set a range of IP Addresses to have Access
to the WAN Port, and then use DCHP to only allow that range access thru
the router.
2. Use Static IP Adressing for each customers Laptop, and have your
wired subnet, on a non-default IP Subnet.
In my Network World, I have to deasl with multiple Mutually Exclusive
Subnets, that exist on a common Copper Wireplant. None of these
subnets are allowed to interact with each other, and since only
one DCHP Server is allowed per Routed Copper WirePlant Segment
only one of the Mutually Exclusive Subnets can use DCHP for
AutoSetup via DCHP Leases. The rest are Static IP Addressed. I have
multiple Mutually Exclusive WAN Gateways to the Internet, thru which
each Subnet access's the Internet. All my Wireless AP's (10+) a Router
Types and each of their WAN Ports are Static IP Addressed on one of the
Static IP Addressed Mtutally Exclusive Subnets. This allows me to use
the DCHP Servers built into the WiFi Routers to admin leases on the WiFi
and Wired Ports of each, thru the MAC Addressing Access list for each
WiFi AP, and by assigning the DCHP Server in each AP a different subnet,
I can see who is connecting thru which AP, and using which Gateway. I
also have a DNS Casheing Server/Web Server on that subnet that supports
the WiFi Network due to long latencies on my SAT Internet WAN Connection.
It is a bit convoluted but it works and I have positive control over
access on all ports, wired, and wireless, except on the Mutually
Exclusive subnet that uses DCHP, and I am not responcible for
maintainance of that network, and the guy that is doesn't seem to care.
I don't use any WiFi Encryption as this Network is out in bush Alaska,
and we don't get many snoops this fasr out, since the nearest road is
250 miles away. This makes connections very fast and easy to deal with
if problems arise on the WiFi side of things.
Brucee in alaska

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Barry Margolin - 18 Aug 2006 00:18 GMT
> > What can/should I do in order to maintain a secure LAN network for my
> > computers (which includes one wirelss laptop) yet enable public
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> 2. Use Static IP Adressing for each customers Laptop, and have your
> wireless subnet, on a non-default IP Subnet.
That prevents randoms from accessing the wireless network, but it
doesn't do anything to protect his LAN from access by the customers.
What I think is needed are two wireless routers, connected in sequence:
DSL -- Customer-router -- Office-router
Customers would be allowed to join the Customer-router's wireless LAN;
you can give them the SSID and passphrase, and maybe use Bruce's
suggestions to further restrict access.
Your company PC's would be connected, either wired or wirelessly, to
Office-router. The NAT and firewall on the Office-router would protect
your office LAN from access by the customers. For even better
protection you could go with a true firewall -- many of them now have
wireless options.
I wonder if there are any wireless routers or access points that provide
the wireless equivalent of VLANs, i.e. the router/AP supports multiple
SSIDs, each with its own encryption settings.

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> I am setting up a small business. I have a DSL PPOE account and
> purchased a wireless router. I have one laptop that is wireless, 2
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> computers (which includes one wirelss laptop) yet enable public
> wireless access for my customers? I'm not sure what to do
In your wireless DSL modem, you need to enable password protection for
connecting to your LAN. BTW, if you *haven't* done that already, you
*do not* have a secure LAN. Anyone can join it. Once you've got the
password protection up and running, you just tell your customers the
password. The manual will have instructions for how to do this. Choose
the most secure option available
I would put a router between your PCs and the rest of the LAN with NAT
enabled, to hide them from the rest of the LAN, also. And I would not
leave the laptop wirelessly connected. And I would password protect
access to each computer and install/turn on the internal firewalls.
You don't say what operating systems or wireless router you are using,
so we can;t be more specific in terms of step-by-step instructions. But
do see:
http://www.theworld.com/~reinhold/airport.html
> I am setting up a small business. I have a DSL PPOE account and
> purchased a wireless router. I have one laptop that is wireless, 2
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> computers (which includes one wirelss laptop) yet enable public
> wireless access for my customers? I'm not sure what to do.
The secure way to do this, often referred to as a coffee shop setup, is
to use two wireless base stations: one with encryption enabled for your
office LAN and the other without encryption for your customers. You'll
want to use the two routers' NAT functions to make the machines on your
office LAN effectively unreachable by anybody connected to the public
network. That means plugging the office router into one of the public
router's Ethernet LAN ports and then connecting the public router's WAN
port to the DSL modem. Your office machines will be on a different
subnet and the second (office) router will block unsolicited traffic to
them from the other (public) subnet.
This is described at
<http://www.tomsnetworking.com/2006/06/30/wireless_faq_security/page2.ht
ml#68>. (Ignore the advice about enabling MAC address association and
disabling ESSID broadcast.)