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802.11b vs. 802.11g: need I replace?

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Svein - 20 Nov 2005 18:10 GMT
Hello,

I have an older discontinued D-link wireless router (802.11b). Is there
any point speed-wise in replacing this with a newer model, with 802.11g
technology, when my Internet connection is 4.5 Mbps?

Should I replace the router (which works fine range-wise) only if and
when my Internet connection gets faster (above 11 Mbps), or will there
be any improvements speed-wise with a newer router at this point.

I use only one portable mac with the router along with a desktop one.
What is your advice if this number increases?

Any thoughts or, better still, facts?
Geoffrey F. Green - 20 Nov 2005 19:57 GMT
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> Any thoughts or, better still, facts?

If you do extensive data transfer between your desktop and portable,
then you'll find the speed upgrade worthwhile. Otherwise, I'd stick
with what you have.

- geoff
Walter Bushell - 21 Nov 2005 15:27 GMT
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>  - geoff

And for infrequent giant transfers, a direct ethernet cable is even
better, if your machines are not ancient 100k beats Wifi speed all
hollow, not to mention the possibility of Firewire. (See target mode).

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Neill Massello - 20 Nov 2005 21:23 GMT
> I have an older discontinued D-link wireless router (802.11b). Is there
> any point speed-wise in replacing this with a newer model, with 802.11g
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> Any thoughts or, better still, facts?

The maximum real-world throughput for 802.11b is roughly half that
official 11Mbps figure and is shared among all devices using the same
wireless network. More simultaneous users means less throughput for each
device.

I suggest you test the real speed of your local wireless network with
some large file transfers between your two Macs. The real, consistent
speeds you can achieve with 802.11b are less than 600KBps, with quite a
bit of variation depending on hardware and signal quality. That's enough
-- but barely -- for your present Internet connection speed. A new
wireless networking standard is in the works and long overdue, so you're
only compelling reasons to upgrade right now would be for better
security (WPA) or more speed on your local network.
Fred McKenzie - 22 Nov 2005 18:14 GMT
> I have an older discontinued D-link wireless router (802.11b). Is there
> any point speed-wise in replacing this with a newer model, with 802.11g
> technology, when my Internet connection is 4.5 Mbps?

Svein-

Upgrade may be worthwhile, but you would have to upgrade both the router
and the client interfaces if they aren't already at the 802.11g level.
Depending on your laptop and desktop machines, this might mean purchasing
newer models of each.

Fred
LarryDoc - 24 Nov 2005 18:26 GMT
> > I have an older discontinued D-link wireless router (802.11b). Is there
> > any point speed-wise in replacing this with a newer model, with 802.11g
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> Fred

I have an old linksys b. Tried a new linksys g and found exactly no
difference. Tried Belkin g and found no speed difference but less signal
strength past 50 feet.  3.0 Mbps internet connection. I was told that
the only benefit in changing to g would be if there were multiple
machines attempting to transfer files between machines capable of doing
so at greater than 11Mbps and likewise no benefit if internet connection
speed is less than 11 Mbps.  That seems to be the case.

LB
Michelle Steiner - 24 Nov 2005 22:40 GMT
> I have an old linksys b. Tried a new linksys g and found exactly no
> difference.

You would have to upgrade the computer to g as well.

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LarryDoc - 25 Nov 2005 05:56 GMT
> > I have an old linksys b. Tried a new linksys g and found exactly no
> > difference.
>
> You would have to upgrade the computer to g as well.

Indeed. I'm using (primarily) a g4 Al 17" which of course does have the
g card. Also a g4 Titanium with a b card.  Tried the g routers in g and
b/g modes. No difference.

LB
 
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