Connecting a Mac OS 9.1 directly to the Net

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onetitfemme - 24 Sep 2005 10:05 GMT

Hi,

Even though I am more of a linux/PC kind of person, I own a mac OS 9.1
which I use for testing, design, etc (and because I like it :-)). I
actually have two questions:

1._ How do you set up your internet default gateway?
I went:
Help -> Mac Help -> Connecting to the Net -> Connecting Ethernet cable
-> Connecting to a local Network -> Open TCP/IP cotrol panel
then I set:
IP Address: <my_IP_Address>
Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
Router Address: <here_I_used_my_gateway_to_the_Net> (but I am not
sure, since
I am connecting directly to the Net)
Name server addr: <both_of_them>

I know everything works because I used to use this mac via DHCP to
connect to the Net, but now I need to connect directly.

2._ How can you know the MAC address of your NIC?

3._ Can you run ethereal or do something similar with a mac OS 9.1?

Thanks

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Anders Eklöf - 24 Sep 2005 12:06 GMT

> Hi,
>
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> -> Connecting to a local Network -> Open TCP/IP cotrol panel
> then I set:

Apple Menu -> Control Panels -> TCP/IP is shorter :-)

> IP Address: <my_IP_Address>
> Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
> Router Address: <here_I_used_my_gateway_to_the_Net> (but I am not
> sure, since I am connecting directly to the Net)
> Name server addr: <both_of_them>

There's nothing more to it.

> I know everything works because I used to use this mac via DHCP to
> connect to the Net, but now I need to connect directly.

Even with DHCP you may have been connected directly. The only
differencce is that you request your IP addy and the Name server addies
from a DHCP server - you don't connect *through* the DHCP server.
If you don't connect directly to the internet, you usually connect
through a router. But that's a different matter.

> 2._ How can you know the MAC address of your NIC?

In the control panel, change the User level to Admin or whatever,
then click the Get Info button that appears.
Or check in Apple System Profiler.

> 3._ Can you run ethereal or do something similar with a mac OS 9.1?

There are similar tools. Check out www.versiontracker.com.

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onetitfemme - 28 Sep 2005 10:37 GMT

Well, I could not connect to the Internet even though I think I am
doing the righ t thing

Thank you for letting me know from where could I get the MAC address
of my machine, but how do you freaking get to the command prompt with
such a mac and go say: "ping yahoo.com"?

I want to test my internet connection and all I see in my mac are
little icons and things ;-)

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Jon Aalborg - 28 Sep 2005 12:08 GMT

> Thank you for letting me know from where could I get the MAC address
> of my machine, but how do you freaking get to the command prompt with
> such a mac and go say: "ping yahoo.com"?

You need to get a small utility for doing things like that, or get a
terminal application for OS9. Should be easy to find both on
versiontracker.com. Remember, Mac OS 9 does NOT have a command-line mode
like OS X, so you cannot "get to the command prompt", it simply isn't
there unless you create one in an app.

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Bill - 28 Sep 2005 15:38 GMT

> Well, I could not connect to the Internet even though I think I am
> doing the righ t thing
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> I want to test my internet connection and all I see in my mac are
> little icons and things ;-)

First, are you connecting via Ethernet to a high-speed modem, or by
dialup via the built-in modem?

Second, use the TCP/IP control panel to set up the IP protocol. The
normal setting should be Use DHCP Server. That should take care of
setting the IP address automatically.

Of course you also have to configure the correct user name and password
for your ISP. Otherwise you ISP won't let you on. If you are using a
router, you do that on the router. If you are not using a router, you
have to do it on the computer. IIRC, in OS 9 you use the Remote Access
control panel for this.

There is also an Internet Setup Assistant that will walk you through the
process. It is probably in the Utilities folder. You may want to use
that Assistant.

Bill Collins

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David C. Stone - 28 Sep 2005 18:36 GMT

> > Well, I could not connect to the Internet even though I think I am
> > doing the righ t thing
> >
> > Thank you for letting me know from where could I get the MAC address
> > of my machine, but how do you freaking get to the command prompt with
> > such a mac and go say: "ping yahoo.com"?

Since that didn't seem to get answered, one of the tools that can be
installed with OS 9.x is a nifty little thing called WhatRoute. This
will let you do ping, traceroute, and other troubleshooting activities
once you have your ethernet connection configured in the TCP/IP control
panel.

If WhatRoute is not currently on your Mac in your applications folder,
you can do a custom install to get it from your OS cd-rom.

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ovalking - 22 Oct 2005 00:10 GMT

In the TCP/IP Control Panel don't forget to check the 'Connect via'
setting. This will normally be Ethernet built-in but it depends on your
Mac and should be set to the port you have connected to.

For pinging try OT Tool from www.neon.com
It's always annoyed me that Apple never supplied this simple but
important functionality!

G.

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