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miscellaneousmedia@yahoo.com - 29 Aug 2005 19:06 GMT
I am trying to install an airport I picked up on ebay into a T-book I
picked up on ebay. The install ation on apple/support says i need a
philips head to remove 8 screws. Well, there are only seven on the
bottom of this laptop and the scrwes are little stars not philips head.
Is this just a small quibble with Apple semantics or do I have the
wrong directions, laptop?
Grandpa - 29 Aug 2005 19:28 GMT
> I am trying to install an airport I picked up on ebay into a T-book I
> picked up on ebay. The install ation on apple/support says i need a
> philips head to remove 8 screws. Well, there are only seven on the
> bottom of this laptop and the scrwes are little stars not philips head.
> Is this just a small quibble with Apple semantics or do I have the
> wrong directions, laptop?

Insufficient information given to answer your question, but the most
likely answer is, you've got the wrong manual for your laptop. Try
telling us which laptop you have, and we can probably direct you to the
correct manual.

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miscellaneousmedia@yahoo.com - 29 Aug 2005 20:01 GMT
G4 running 10.1.3
Neill Massello - 29 Aug 2005 20:56 GMT
> I am trying to install an airport I picked up on ebay into a T-book I
> picked up on ebay. The install ation on apple/support says i need a
> philips head to remove 8 screws. Well, there are only seven on the
> bottom of this laptop and the scrwes are little stars not philips head.
> Is this just a small quibble with Apple semantics or do I have the
> wrong directions, laptop?

Wrong directions. Replacement instructions for Titanium PowerBooks are
at <http://www.apple.com/support/powerbook/doityourself/15ti/>. Your
TiBook appears to be the "PowerBook G4 (DVI) and (1GHz/867MHz)" model
with seven Torx T8 screws.
nickravo - 29 Aug 2005 21:35 GMT
Ok. Got the box open, installed the card and got a little wireless icon
saying there is a card on. But I have no network or anything. And my
windows laptop is running fine off a Lynksys router and extender. What
gives? I figured if I just put a card in and walked into any place with
a WiFi feed I would get a network. What am I missing here. (Lynksys
does not service Macs, by the way.)
Neill Massello - 29 Aug 2005 21:42 GMT
> Ok. Got the box open, installed the card and got a little wireless icon
> saying there is a card on. But I have no network or anything. And my
> windows laptop is running fine off a Lynksys router and extender. What
> gives? I figured if I just put a card in and walked into any place with
> a WiFi feed I would get a network. What am I missing here. (Lynksys
> does not service Macs, by the way.)

Did you click on the little wireless icon in the menubar? Did you
configure the AirPort port in the Network pane in system Preferences?
nickravo - 29 Aug 2005 21:50 GMT
Configure the Network Pane? I have automatic on for location; Airport
for Show; under TCP/IP Using DHCP then everything is blank in the white
boxes; I figure this is done automatically, no? It was on my windows
machine.
nickravo - 29 Aug 2005 21:55 GMT
Now my airport icon in the menu bar has a ltttle black TV set in it, or
at least that is what it looks like.
nickravo - 29 Aug 2005 22:02 GMT
This may sound dense, but from reading the instructions it makes it
sound like I need an Apple base station to run this Mac wirelessly? I
mean, that can't be. How would you run it at Starbucks or over someone
else's house? Tell me I don't need an Airport base station and that the
lynxsys router running off a cable modem weill work fine.
nickravo - 29 Aug 2005 22:07 GMT
Ok, in reading the airport instructions I keep seeing that the card has
an ANTENNA? And goes in the slot. This one did not fit in the slot, I
opened it up and put it in the internatal area per the web site's
directions. It did look like it had room on the end for an antenna or
something. All of this makes me wonder -- do I have an antennaless card
that is incompatible with the G4 I have? Is that possible and the root
of my problem?
Neill Massello - 29 Aug 2005 23:34 GMT
> Ok, in reading the airport instructions I keep seeing that the card has
> an ANTENNA? And goes in the slot. This one did not fit in the slot, I
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> that is incompatible with the G4 I have? Is that possible and the root
> of my problem?

Apple AirPort cards have antenna ports and require external antennas.

Apple AirPort cards only work in the internal slots in Macintosh
computers. They do not work in CardBus (or PC or PCMCIA) slots. The
internal AirPort slots in Macintosh computers only work with Apple
AirPort cards. They do not work with third-party cards.

Titanium PowerBooks only accept the original (not Extreme) AirPort cards
internally. These cards, no longer in production, differ in appearance
from the current AirPort Extreme cards.

With a compatible driver, a Titanium PowerBook can use a non-Apple
CardBus wireless card in its external slot.

Titanium PowerBooks have an internal antenna cable with a right-angle
connector located at the side of the case near the AirPort card slot, as
shown in the Replacement Instructions. If yours doesn't, something's
wrong.

The AirPort support page is at <http://www.apple.com/support/airport/>.
Tom Harrington - 29 Aug 2005 22:09 GMT
> This may sound dense, but from reading the instructions it makes it
> sound like I need an Apple base station to run this Mac wirelessly?

That's not true.  Any 802.11b or 802.11g base station will work.

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nickravo - 29 Aug 2005 22:24 GMT
Ok, I'm up. Thanks for the tips. I must of accidentaly hit the right
button or something.
nospam - 29 Aug 2005 22:18 GMT
> This may sound dense, but from reading the instructions it makes it
> sound like I need an Apple base station to run this Mac wirelessly? I
> mean, that can't be. How would you run it at Starbucks or over someone
> else's house? Tell me I don't need an Airport base station and that the
> lynxsys router running off a cable modem weill work fine.

i never heard of 'lynxsys' - perhaps they are a chinese knockoff that
is incompatible with 802.11b/g.  

linksys routers work fine with macs and apple only supports apple base
stations.

care to disclose which model linksys, which extender and what windows
laptop & card?  is encryption on or off, and if it is on, is it wep or
wpa?  is the network ssid hidden or visible?  do you have any other
type of security (i.e. mac address filtering) enabled?  is dhcp on or
off on the router?

you mentioned osx 10.1.3 - you should update to 10.1.5 and the latest
airport software available - just run software update.  you may also
consider upgrading to panther or tiger, and possibly may need to
upgrade to that depending on your answers to the above questions.

fill in the details, otherwise it is just going to be a pointless
guessing game.

assuming your base station is capable of 802.11b, it should work, but
you apparently have something misconfigured somewhere.
Tom Harrington - 29 Aug 2005 22:08 GMT
> Now my airport icon in the menu bar has a ltttle black TV set in it, or
> at least that is what it looks like.

That means you used the "Create network" menu item to create a
computer-to-computer network rather than allow the Mac to connect to
your base station.  You should to the Airport menu and select
"disconnect from current network".

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Tom "Tom" Harrington
Macaroni, Automated System Maintenance for Mac OS X.
Version 2.0:  Delocalize, Repair Permissions, lots more.
See http://www.atomicbird.com/

 
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