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Nelson - 26 Dec 2004 10:31 GMT
Here's a strange one...  whenever I receive an email from a certain aol
customer and hit the reply button nothing apparently happens.  However
if I quit Mail and relaunch, the addressed reply message window is open
but without any body text and a draft now shows in the draft box.

The body of the original message is in html.  Has anyone else seen
this?  Does it happen with everyone from aol or is this an isolated
case.

Any idea how to report the bug to Apple without it being an exercise in
naivety?

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David - 26 Dec 2004 14:55 GMT
> Here's a strange one...  whenever I receive an email from a certain aol
> customer and hit the reply button nothing apparently happens.  However
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> this?  Does it happen with everyone from aol or is this an isolated
> case.

This is a known problem wih certain versions of AOL mailer. You will
need to convert the messge to plain text before replying.

Use option-apple-p or View -> Message -> Plain Text Alternative

(See the Apple suppport forums for many, many posts about this.)
Nelson - 27 Dec 2004 09:43 GMT
>> Here's a strange one...  whenever I receive an email from a certain aol
>> customer and hit the reply button nothing apparently happens.  However
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>
> (See the Apple suppport forums for many, many posts about this.)

Thanks, that worked.

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Eric Albert - 26 Dec 2004 23:35 GMT
> Any idea how to report the bug to Apple without it being an exercise in
> naivety?

You have to be a member of the Apple Developer Connection to provide
official bug reports to Apple.  You can sign up for free at
<http://connect.apple.com>.

The next step is to file a bug report at <http://bugreport.apple.com/>.  
Note that your bug report won't be very helpful (and therefore is
unlikely to get fixed) unless it has a couple of things:

-Exact steps for Apple to reproduce the bug.

-An exact description of the environment in which you see it -- what
software you're running, etc.

In this case, you'd want to include the raw source of the message you're
having trouble replying to.  To generate that in Mail, select the
message and go to View->Message->Raw Source.  Include the entire raw
source, not just a snippet.  I'd also suggest including your Mail
preferences (~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.mail.plist) in case
something in those is triggering this.

-Eric

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Nelson - 27 Dec 2004 09:44 GMT
>> Any idea how to report the bug to Apple without it being an exercise in
>> naivety?
>
> You have to be a member of the Apple Developer Connection to provide
> official bug reports to Apple.  You can sign up for free at
> <http://connect.apple.com>.

Thanks for the info.  Looks like it has already been reported however.

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David - 27 Dec 2004 12:26 GMT
>> You have to be a member of the Apple Developer Connection to provide
>> official bug reports to Apple.  You can sign up for free at
>> <http://connect.apple.com>.
>
> Thanks for the info.  Looks like it has already been reported however.

Yep. Apple has known about this for some time. They don't seem to want
to fix it. :-/
Eric Albert - 27 Dec 2004 20:44 GMT
> >> You have to be a member of the Apple Developer Connection to provide
> >> official bug reports to Apple.  You can sign up for free at
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Yep. Apple has known about this for some time. They don't seem to want
> to fix it. :-/

What's the bug number?

-Eric

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David - 28 Dec 2004 01:52 GMT
>>> Thanks for the info.  Looks like it has already been reported however.
>>
>> Yep. Apple has known about this for some time. They don't seem to want
>> to fix it. :-/
>
> What's the bug number?

Sinc e I'm not a member of the apple developer connection they won't
apply a bug number to my feedback email. I guess it's not really a bug
unless you give apple money.
Dave Balderstone - 28 Dec 2004 03:14 GMT
> Sinc e I'm not a member of the apple developer connection they won't
> apply a bug number to my feedback email. I guess it's not really a bug
> unless you give apple money.

It doesn't cost anything to register as a developer. That gives you the
ability to officially file bug reports and have a number assigned.

<http://developer.apple.com/membership/?nav>

Feedback email does not go into the bug tracking process.
Eric Albert - 28 Dec 2004 05:49 GMT
> >>> Thanks for the info.  Looks like it has already been reported however.
> >>
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> apply a bug number to my feedback email. I guess it's not really a bug
> unless you give apple money.

I posted instructions in this thread explaining how to report bugs to
Apple for free.  It isn't a bug report unless it's filed as a bug
report, though. :)

-Eric

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