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DVD burner question

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Warren Oates - 17 Feb 2005 21:30 GMT
I have a Sawtooth G4 (400 mHz), with the stock (IDE) DVD/CD player
that came with it. Nowadays there's some pretty cheap internal DVD
burners available. Can I just replace my DVD player with one
of those dual layer + and - burners? Will my Toast 5.2.1 burn for me
if I do?

I'm running 10.2.8 and 9.2.2 (boot into 9.2.2 rather than use the
"Classic Mode"), 448 megs of RAM, lots of hard drive space. I'm
probably going to put another 256 RAM in this weekend.

Thanks.
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Mailman - 17 Feb 2005 22:29 GMT
> I have a Sawtooth G4 (400 mHz), with the stock (IDE) DVD/CD player
> that came with it. Nowadays there's some pretty cheap internal DVD
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> "Classic Mode"), 448 megs of RAM, lots of hard drive space. I'm
> probably going to put another 256 RAM in this weekend.

I added a Pioneer 108 OEM to my G4 MDD and Toast didn't blink (mind you,
vers. 6, not sure about vers. 5), I had to use Patchburn to add a driver
and be able to burn straight from the finder, disk utility, Dvd Studio
Pro and other apps.

This is the system profile output

PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-108:

 Manufacturer: PIONEER
 Model:                        PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-108
 Revision:     1.18
 Drive Type:   CD-RW/DVD-RW
 Disc Burning: Vendor Supported
 Removable Media:      Yes
 Detachable Drive:     No
 Protocol:     ATAPI
 Unit Number:  1
 Socket Type:  Internal
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David C. - 18 Feb 2005 03:24 GMT
> I have a Sawtooth G4 (400 mHz), with the stock (IDE) DVD/CD player
> that came with it. Nowadays there's some pretty cheap internal DVD
> burners available. Can I just replace my DVD player with one of those
> dual layer + and - burners? Will my Toast 5.2.1 burn for me if I do?

You should be able to use just about any IDE drive.  I would be
surprised if you found one that Toast couldn't handle.

Apple's applications (iTunes, Disk Utility and iDVD) may refuse to work
with some burners.  Especially iDVD version 4 and older - it doesn't
like non-Apple drives.

If this is a problem, you can do a search for a program called
"patchburn".  This utility tweaks MacOS to make the Apple apps
compatible with third-party burners.  It won't make an incompatible
drive compatible, but it will make the apps believe it is.  Since most
modern drives are compatible, it works.

If you have a question about a specific brand/model, you may be able to
find someone here who has first-hand experience with it and could give
a more concrete answer.

-- David
Winston Smith - 18 Feb 2005 15:21 GMT
> I have a Sawtooth G4 (400 mHz), with the stock (IDE) DVD/CD player
> that came with it. Nowadays there's some pretty cheap internal DVD
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>
> Thanks.

yeah, the dual layer burners will work fine with toast on your machine.  
I recommend a pioneer, as I've had no problems with mine and they are
quite cheap now.  OSX thinks they are superdrives, so they are
compatible with everything.
cheers,
jeebus
Warren Oates - 18 Feb 2005 18:20 GMT
:yeah, the dual layer burners will work fine with toast on your machine.  
:I recommend a pioneer, as I've had no problems with mine and they are
:quite cheap now.  OSX thinks they are superdrives, so they are
:compatible with everything.
:cheers,
:jeebus

Thanks! And thanks to David C. and Mailman, both of whom offered some
good advice.

Now I just have to do it. Convincing the Wife that taking the CD
player out of the Mac is A Good Thing will be the difficult part. "Are
you sure you know what you're doing?" "Well, no, not really ..."

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The Iron Giant - 27 Feb 2005 19:12 GMT
The answer in this case must always begin with, "Of course, honey!"

> Thanks! And thanks to David C. and Mailman, both of whom offered some
> good advice.
> Now I just have to do it. Convincing the Wife that taking the CD
> player out of the Mac is A Good Thing will be the difficult part. "Are
> you sure you know what you're doing?" "Well, no, not really ..."
 
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