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Mac Forum / General / Hardware / December 2007Tough question "How to get iPod Touch to show in the winxp My Computer window
Do any Apple iPod hardware MP3 experts know how to get the iPod touch to show up in the Windows XP My Computer window? I received an iPod touch for Christmas today and the first thing I tried was to google for ways to manage it on my own, without the legendary interference from Apple. The google record clearly shows SharePod freeeware to be a fantastic tool to free us from Apple's tyranny. Basically, you sync once with iTunes and then delete iTunes forever. To manage your music, you simply slide files back and forth from any hard disk to any iPod and back. That's it. Nothing could be simpler or more obvious a use model. The problem to be solved by iPod hardware experts is how to place SharePod onto the iPod touch since Apple has purposefully "broken" the iPod touch so that the iPod touch is expressly missing in the My Computer window. I'm sure there is an answer; I just don't know what it is yet. I am not an iPod expert. But, someone on this newsgroup must be. Right? Once we solve how to get the iPod touch to show up in the Windows My Computer window, we can write up a tutorial for future iPod touch users to benefit; but first we need to solve the problem together. If you consider yourself an iPod expert, can you suggest how we might get the iPod touch to show up in the winxp My Computer window? Thanks, and Merry Christmas, Suzanne DeAngelillis REFERENCES: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=306414 http://www.sturm.net.nz/website.php?Section=IPod+Programs&Page=SharePod > If you consider yourself an iPod expert, can you suggest how we might get > the iPod touch to show up in the winxp My Computer window? In our attempt to find a solution ... let's first look at the cause of the problem. Do you think Apple hid the iPod Touch from the Windows explorer on purpose or by accident? If on purpose, why? More importantly, if on purpose, how? Once we know how an iPod shows up in the Windows explorer, then we can figure out the solution > > If you consider yourself an iPod expert, can you suggest how we might get > > the iPod touch to show up in the winxp My Computer window? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Once we know how an iPod shows up in the Windows explorer, then we can > figure out the solution The solution seems easy to me. Download iTunes for Windows and install it. Problem solved. In alt.music.mp3.hardware Shawn Hirn wrote: <[Susie snipped her own stuff]> > > > If you consider yourself an iPod expert, can you suggest how > > > we might get the iPod touch to show up in the winxp My [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > The solution seems easy to me. Download iTunes for Windows and > install it. Problem solved. Yeah but. :) iTunes sucks donkey dick! :/ So only jackasses actually like iTunes. ;) Alvin uses Gtkpod and Grip in AZ on his 30G iPod ps- added a.o.l > In alt.music.mp3.hardware Shawn Hirn wrote: > <[Susie snipped her own stuff]> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Alvin uses Gtkpod and Grip in AZ on his 30G iPod > ps- added a.o.l I guess we millions of iTunes users must all be wrong. Perhaps you would have been better served by buying an mp3 play from one of Apple's competitors. > I guess we millions of iTunes users must all be wrong. They *all* are! They are universally stupid sheep. iTunes is overpriced, poor quality, DRM-ridden crap, and should be avoided by all right-thinking music lovers. $40k to fill an iPod? Have a look at: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071227-one-third-of-pcs-prefer-limewire.html C. >> I guess we millions of iTunes users must all be wrong. > > They *all* are! They are universally stupid sheep. iTunes is > overpriced, poor quality, DRM-ridden crap, and should be avoided by > all right-thinking music lovers. $40k to fill an iPod? Have a look > at: Just because you [normally] need iTunes to load songs on to an iPod, (As it doesn't show up as removable drive in My Computer, which was the OP's question.) that doesn't mean that you actually have to use the iTunes Store to buy music! People can download music (MP3/AAC) files from other sources, or just rip tracks from a CD. You can even buy non-DRM tracks from the iTunes Store these days. But nobody has to buy anything from the iTunes Store if they don't want to. However, quite a lot of people do choose to. In alt.music.mp3.hardware Broadway Blue <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote: > Just because you [normally] need iTunes to load songs on to an > iPod, (As it doesn't show up as removable drive in My Computer, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > days. But nobody has to buy anything from the iTunes Store if they > don't want to. However, quite a lot of people do choose to. Still have to keep a copy of the track/s on your computer? A while back a guy on a.m.m.h tried to add some stuff to his daughter's iPod (using iTunes;) and of course erased all her other stuff. Ooops. Oh well, he was a sorry friggin thief tho and so she deserved what she got. ;) Apple and iTunes are sooooo cool. ;) I use ubuntu, grip, gtkpod, k3b and no copies of the stuff on my hard drive after I've loaded the stuff off my own CDs. YMMV Alvin in AZ > In alt.music.mp3.hardware Broadway Blue <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote: > > Just because you [normally] need iTunes to load songs on to an [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Still have to keep a copy of the track/s on your computer? Normally yes. You can put the iPod into manual sync mode, in which case you don't have to keep the music on the computer (or use a single computer to copy music onto an iPod). Personally, I prefer to keep all my music on my computer, since I often listen to it using the computer and don't want to have to dig out the CD and rip it again. > A while back a guy on a.m.m.h tried to add some stuff to his > daughter's iPod (using iTunes;) and of course erased all her > other stuff. Same solution. If you are intending to copy music onto an iPod from multiple computers, then turn off the automatic sync mode and manually manage the music. The default automatic sync mode assumes a single "host" iTunes is in control of the iPod, so if you connect it to another iTunes it will ask if you want to wipe the iPod and start fresh.  SignatureDavid Empson dempson@actrix.gen.nz > In alt.music.mp3.hardware Broadway Blue <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote: >> Just because you [normally] need iTunes to load songs on to an [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Still have to keep a copy of the track/s on your computer? And? It might not be everyone's cup of tea, but it's hardly the end of the World if you do. There are work arounds mind you, but having the tracks on your PC means that you can play your music files through a media player or jukebox from your hard drive, without needing the CDs. So it's not a major issue for everyone, and entirely up to peoples individual tastes. > Do any Apple iPod hardware MP3 experts know how to get the iPod touch to > show up in the Windows XP My Computer window? No. The iPhone and iPod Touch don't act like a USB Mass Storage device, so they don't appear as a mountable volume on any operating system. They can't be used for general file storage. This also means you have to use iTunes to manage them. This might change in future (with updated software from Apple to enable mass storage support) but in the meantime, iTunes is likely to be your only option. SignatureDavid Empson dempson@actrix.gen.nz > > Do any Apple iPod hardware MP3 experts know how to get the iPod > > touch to show up in the Windows XP My Computer window? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > David Empson > dempson@actrix.gen.nz Heck. :/ That didn't happen by accident, it was by design. What do you think Shawn? :) Still in love with Apple? :) Do you think Apple loves you back? You are being manipulated and controlled for profit. ...and you like it? I was -given- a 30G iPod, and it began working good for me as soon as I broke loose from that stinkin M$ and iTunes controlled environment. YMMV :) Alvin in AZ > Heck. :/ > That didn't happen by accident, it was by design. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > You are being manipulated and controlled for profit. > ...and you like it? You are extraordinarily naive if you believe that any company designs, manufactures and sells music players without the intention of making profits from the process!! If Apple make good hardware, supported by good software, with features which meet my needs ... and I choose to buy into that then I'm more than happy that they make a profit! If the costs versus benefit don't stack up then nobody wlll buy the stuff. SignatureAdrian In alt.music.mp3.hardware Adrian <nonesuch@place.com> wrote: > > Heck. :/ > > That didn't happen by accident, it was by design. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > versus benefit don't stack up then nobody wlll buy the stuff. > Adrian I'm a libertarian and 100% athiest. Do and believe what you want ...I won't pull your head from the sand ...just tell you there are other options, from here. Ok? ;) Alvin in AZ ps- did you get permission to use Place.Com's address? ;) pps- BTDT :/ used to use XX.com > > Do any Apple iPod hardware MP3 experts know how to get the iPod touch to > > show up in the Windows XP My Computer window? > > No. The iPhone and iPod Touch don't act like a USB Mass Storage device, > so they don't appear as a mountable volume on any operating system. They > can't be used for general file storage. That makes some sense. With USB being a Master Slave design (unlike the peer to peer arrangement used by Firewire), once the iPod Touch or iPhone gets a full scale file system of its own, showing up as a USB Mass Storage device would not be standard. That said, lacking disk mode and lacking Notes (Museum) mode makes the iPod Touch a lot less use than I expected, regardless of how interesting the interface is, and regardless of how well Safari works. Signaturehttp://www.ericlindsay.com |
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