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Mac Forum / General / Hardware / August 2007G4 Quicksilver 2002 PCI Ethernet
I have a G4 Quicksilver 2002 whose Ethernet port is dead (it was plugged into a router that got fried by lightning). I want to put a PCI Ethernet card in it, but both of the cards I have tried so far do nothing. Doesn't even show in System Profiler that any PCI card is plugged in. The card's indicator lights do come on, so there is power to the PCI. I tried the cards in 2 of my 4 slots. I've decided that Linksys/Network Everywhere is a bad choice, since there seem to be no drivers anywhere that would help. Should an unrecognized card show *something* in System Profiler, or is it normal for it to show nothing? It makes me worry that my PCI controller may be fried too. Has anybody found a NIC that works in this kind of computer? Don't really need anything more than 100 Mbps, but gigabit would be nice. :) > I have a G4 Quicksilver 2002 whose Ethernet port is dead (it was > plugged into a router that got fried by lightning). I want to put a [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Has anybody found a NIC that works in this kind of computer? Don't > really need anything more than 100 Mbps, but gigabit would be nice. :) I have used Macsense NICs and they have always just worked. http://www.macsense.com/product/networking/wired.htm  SignatureI do the best I can, but I could be wrong. please post reply to newsgroup. David, Williamsport, PA. USA. http://mysite.verizon.net/vzev1hs3/ > I have a G4 Quicksilver 2002 whose Ethernet port is dead (it was > plugged into a router that got fried by lightning). I want to put a > PCI Ethernet card in it, but both of the cards I have tried so far do > nothing. Doesn't even show in System Profiler that any PCI card is > plugged in. The card's indicator lights do come on, so there is power > to the PCI. I tried the cards in 2 of my 4 slots. Have you tried using the card once it's plugged in? I mean for networking? SignatureW. Oates > > I have a G4 Quicksilver 2002 whose Ethernet port is dead (it was > > plugged into a router that got fried by lightning). I want to put a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Have you tried using the card once it's plugged in? I mean for > networking? Yes. As I said, the indicator light's come on and show (electrical) connection to the cable modem and that packets are coming to it. I assume this is the modem attempting to see what is on the wire. But nothing shows up under system Profiler, and nothing shows on Network preferences Port Configuration tab, so I can't select it for use. The cards I've tried, appear to use a Linksys proprietary chipset that has no Mac driver available anywhere. David mentioned the MacSense cards, and their page shows those using the RTL8139 chipset. My research shows that's a good chipset for Mac. Unfortunately, It's $35 + shipping. That's a lot to invest if I'm not sure my PCI slots are even working. I'm going to go today & see if my local PC store has a cheap NIC that definitely has the RTL chipset. That's the problem going to Walmart, you can't actually see the card in the store. :P Little shops don't mind opening the box, and are more likely to have a clue anyway. > I'm going to go today & see if my local PC store has a cheap NIC that > definitely has the RTL chipset. That's the problem going to Walmart, > you can't actually see the card in the store. :P Little shops don't > mind opening the box, and are more likely to have a clue anyway. On: <http://www.macupgrades.co.uk/store/machine.php?name=powermac-g4-quicksi lver2001> I see the Sonnet Presto Gigabit Ethernet Card: <http://www.macupgrades.co.uk/store/product_info.php?products_id=119> It specificalle mentions that is is compatible with the PowerMac G4 Quicksilver 2002. Price £61.04 VAT included. SignaturePer Erik Rønne http://www.RQNNE.dk > > I'm going to go today & see if my local PC store has a cheap NIC that > > definitely has the RTL chipset. That's the problem going to Walmart, [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > It specificalle mentions that is is compatible with the PowerMac G4 > Quicksilver 2002. Price £61.04 VAT included. Well, from the MacOSX.com forum, I have a report that the DLink DFE530TX+ can simply be plugged in and it works, no drivers or anything. A neighborhood store has these (in fact, it's the only NIC they carry). Trying it in all 4 of my PCI slots, nothing. Nada. Zip. So, I believe now that my PCI slots died the same time as my ethernet port. I guess now I'm looking at $150+ for a new motherboard. :( RE the posting: << Well, from the MacOSX.com forum, I have a report that the DLink DFE530TX+ can simply be plugged in and it works, no drivers or anything. A neighborhood store has these (in fact, it's the only NIC they carry). Trying it in all 4 of my PCI slots, nothing. Nada. Zip. So, I believe now that my PCI slots died the same time as my ethernet port. I guess now I'm looking at $150+ for a new motherboard >> I can't help but think that the "report" you read was inaccurate. I can state from experience that the DFE530TX+ does NOT work under OS 9 without its own driver (from my use with one on a PowerMac 9600, which was only retired a few days ago!). I suggest you go to this page first: http://support.dlink.com/products/view.asp?productid=DFE%2D530TX%2B Then read this FAQ: http://support.dlink.com/faq/view.asp?prod_id=1426&question=DFE-530TX+ There is another relevant piece of info here: http://support.dlink.com/products/view.asp?productid=DFE%2D530TX%2B# ... that seems to suggest the last driver for the 530TX+ was version 3.4.6 released back in early 2006, that "added suport for Mac OS 10.2.8". No mention of any further updates. It's _possible_ that subsequent Mac OS updates rendered the card unusable, but I have no direct experience as far as that goes. I'd check carefully before you spend money on a new motherboard - one that STILL may not work with the card, because the card no longer "works with the OS".... Also, MAKE SURE the card you have is the "plus" version of the DFE530 series. There is a "non-plus" version (literally, DFE-530TX as distinguished from DFE-530TX+) that DOES NOT WORK with the Mac at all. I found this out the hard way years ago. - John > RE the posting: ><< Well, from the MacOSX.com forum, I have a report that the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> my ethernet port. I guess now I'm looking at $150+ for a >> new motherboard >> > Also, MAKE SURE the card you have is the "plus" version of > the DFE530 series. There is a "non-plus" version (literally, > DFE-530TX as distinguished from DFE-530TX+) that DOES NOT > WORK with the Mac at all. I found this out the hard way > years ago. That's really a problem with WiFi cards, manufacturers change chipsets and never say anything. As you say, it also happens with regular network cards too. As for network cards try one with an RTL8139 chipset. They are cheap (around $10 U.S.) and are supported with external drivers in Macos 8.5 to 9.1 and 10.0-10.2. They work with no driver in 10.3 onward and I think 9.2. The drivers can be downloaded from "www.realtek.com.tw" and some are in a binhexed sit file on the usually included floppy. Geoff. SignatureGeoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel gsm@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838 Visit my 'blog at http://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/ |
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