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Mac Forum / General / Hardware / July 2007Priner connection to Mac G4
I was just given an Apple Laserwriter printer and there doesn't seem to be a way to connect it to my computer. I was wondering if there is some PDI card to install or is there some other way to adapt it. > I was just given an Apple Laserwriter printer and there doesn't seem to be a > way to connect it to my computer. I was wondering if there is some PDI card > to install or is there some other way to adapt it. What kind of LaserWriter? Some had AppleTalk connectors; to connect one to a G4 you'd need an AppleTalk-to-Ethernet converter. Some had Ethernet connectors; to connect them to a G4 merely requires an Ethernet cable.  Signatureemail to oshea dot j dot j at gmail dot com. >> I was just given an Apple Laserwriter printer and there doesn't seem to be a >> way to connect it to my computer. I was wondering if there is some PDI card [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > G4 you'd need an AppleTalk-to-Ethernet converter. Some had Ethernet > connectors; to connect them to a G4 merely requires an Ethernet cable. I found a USB to parallel converter. Now I can't seem to find the driver. I went to the Apple Website and can't seem to find the driver. It's a LaserWriter Select 360. >>> I was just given an Apple Laserwriter printer and there doesn't seem to be >>> a [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> connectors; to connect them to a G4 merely requires an Ethernet cable. > I found a USB to parallel converter. That won't work. > Now I can't seem to find the driver. That's why. > I went to the Apple Website and can't seem to find the driver. Apple is _not_ going to have drivers for a random parallel-to-USB converter. If the vendor doesn't have an OS X driver, that device will not work with OS X. Note I said 'OS X driver'; it's possible that the vendor might have a _Mac_ driver, but that the driver will be ancient, designed for OS 9 or earlier, and simply will not work with OS X. > It's a > LaserWriter Select 360. That device has a LocalTalk (AppleTalk) port. Get an AppleTalk-to-Ethernet converter, such as <http://www.asante.com/products/CardsAdapters/AsanteTalk.asp>. Asante still has it on their website. Whether or not they still actually have any in stock is a whole other matter. Contact them and find out. There are (or at least were) other AppleTalk-to-Ethernet converter vendors, and it's possible that you might find an old unit from a refurb vendor like PowerOn, PowerMax, Sun Remarketing, or Shreve Systems. I used to have an old AsanteTalk unit around here a few years back, but I haven't seen it in a while so it may be in a landfill. Signatureemail to oshea dot j dot j at gmail dot com. >>>> I was just given an Apple Laserwriter printer and there doesn't seem to be >>>> a [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > here a few years back, but I haven't seen it in a while so it may be in a > landfill. I may have forgotten to mention that I'm using Mac OS 9 on my G4. >>>>> I was just given an Apple Laserwriter printer and there doesn't seem to >>>>> be [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] >> > I may have forgotten to mention that I'm using Mac OS 9 on my G4. The best cure is still the AppleTalk-to-EtherTalk converter, but there might be a driver for OS 9 driver for a parallel-to-USB converter at the vendor's site. Apple definitely will not have the driver unless Apple supplied the converter. You won't need drivers if you use an AppleTalk-to-EtherTalk converter. Signatureemail to oshea dot j dot j at gmail dot com. > >> I was just given an Apple Laserwriter printer and there doesn't seem to be > >> a [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I went to the Apple Website and can't seem to find the driver. It's a > LaserWriter Select 360. Honestly, you are better off simply using a USB printer. Let someone else use that Apple Laser Writer. >>>> I was just given an Apple Laserwriter printer and there doesn't seem to be >>>> a [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Honestly, you are better off simply using a USB printer. Let someone > else use that Apple Laser Writer. You're right. Someone gave it to me and he said it worked fine for him. It's too much of a hassle to mess with it. >>> J.J. O'Shea at try.not.to@but.see.sig wrote on 7/18/07 4:49 PM: >>>>> I was just given an Apple Laserwriter printer and there doesn't seem to be [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > You're right. Someone gave it to me and he said it worked fine for him. > It's too much of a hassle to mess with it. Sorry itten, but you still haven't given the modelnumber of the printer... - Some of the older models cna't be used in any way, neither with AppleTalk, Localtalk or anything converter, simply because there are no drivers for these models. so please give the model name/number, then we can help. cheers, Erik Richard Signature~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Rgds. Grüße, Mvh. Erik Richard Sørensen, Member of ADC <mac-man_NOSP@M_stofanet.dk> <http://www.nisus.com> NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Textprocessing ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> J.J. O'Shea at try.not.to@but.see.sig wrote on 7/18/07 4:49 PM: >>>>>> I was just given an Apple Laserwriter printer and there doesn't seem to [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > cheers, Erik Richard OK. Here's the info. It's an Apple Laserwriter Select 360. S/N: BG44333JIAS. I just plugged this printer in a machine that's running Windows XP, and guess what? It works beautifully. The driver was in the operating system and I just selected my model to get it to print. I find it odd that an Apple printer won't work with a Mac. Even when I went to Apple Website, the only driver that was listed in the downloads was the driver for Windows only. I'm still gonna try to get this to work with my G4 once I find a converter that I can return if I still don't have any luck. Shame on you Apple, Inc. >>>>> J.J. O'Shea at try.not.to@but.see.sig wrote on 7/18/07 4:49 PM: >>>>>>> I was just given an Apple Laserwriter printer and there doesn't seem to [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > Website, the only driver that was listed in the downloads was the driver for > Windows only. I assume that you connected it to the parallel port, so Windows used the driver they've had since 1995? If you used an AppleTalk-to-EtherTalk converter, then you could use the drivers Apple has had since 1995. You're not doing that. > I'm still gonna try to get this to work with my G4 once I > find a converter that I can return if I still don't have any luck. Shame on > you Apple, Inc. It will work. You just have to connect it. You can use a USB-to-parallel converter, if you can find a converter that's supported by OS X. (Note: it's the _converter_ you need drivers for, not the printer. Apple never made converters. It's not their problem.) You can use an AppleTalk-to-Ethertalk converter, and then you can use the standard AppleTalk drivers and all will work fine. You can get a parallel-to-Ethernet converter... but again you'll need the drivers _for the converter_ and again Apple does not support this. You can remember that this is an 11 year old printer. You can use the proper connections. You can get a new printer which will work, and which will cost less than the converter. Or you can bitch and moan. Your choice. Signatureemail to oshea dot j dot j at gmail dot com. > Erik Richard Sørensen at NOSPAM@NOSPAM.dk wrote on 7/23/07 2:38 PM: >>>>> J.J. O'Shea at try.not.to@but.see.sig wrote on 7/18/07 4:49 PM: [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > OK. Here's the info. It's an Apple Laserwriter Select 360. S/N: > BG44333JIAS. OK, the Select 360 isn't supported by OS x directly. the only way there is a chance to use it is with a 'LocalTalk-bridge' + an USB to serail adaptor and then use the system's std. laserwriter setup assistant. But it isn't affordable to buy those two parts, - if you can find them... > I just plugged this printer in a machine that's running > Windows XP, and guess what? It works beautifully. The driver was in the > operating system and I just selected my model to get it to print. Yes, - there are a few more of these old Apple laserwriters included in Windows - right from Windows 3.0 and up. In my own Win98sr2US there are - apart from the Select 360 - also 5-6 more of the old Laserwriter II series and for the NTX series. > I find it > odd that an Apple printer won't work with a Mac. Even when I went to Apple > Website, the only driver that was listed in the downloads was the driver for > Windows only. I'm still gonna try to get this to work with my G4 once I > find a converter that I can return if I still don't have any luck. Shame on > you Apple, Inc. The 'driver' for the Select series are included in OS 7.x to 9.x in the 'Laserwriter 8' driver package, so if you can get a LocalTalk bridge + the USB to Serial adaptor, you at least can get it to work in OS 9.x, but I'm most likely to think that it never will work under OS X.... Cheers, Erik Richard Signature~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Rgds. Grüße, Mvh. Erik Richard Sørensen, Member of ADC <mac-man_NOSP@M_stofanet.dk> <http://www.nisus.com> NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Textprocessing ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Erik Richard Sørensen at NOSPAM@NOSPAM.dk wrote on 7/23/07 2:38 PM: >>>>>> J.J. O'Shea at try.not.to@but.see.sig wrote on 7/18/07 4:49 PM: [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > > Cheers, Erik Richard I don't know if I ever mentioned in previous posts, but I'm using OS 9, not OS 10. >> Erik Richard Sørensen at NOSPAM@NOSPAM.dk wrote on 7/23/07 2:38 PM: >>>>>> J.J. O'Shea at try.not.to@but.see.sig wrote on 7/18/07 4:49 PM: [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > > Cheers, Erik Richard What is a LocalTalk bridge? I'm not familiar with that. |
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