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Atticus - 15 Mar 2007 14:51 GMT
Sorry in advance if this is the wrong place for this query.

In any event, I'm tired of staring at the large block that is my 19" CRT
(attached to a 2.66 Mac Pro with Radeon X1900). I'm ready to jump over
to LCD land, but have no idea what monitor to consider. The LCD market
is confusing, with monitors of similar size and features seemingly
priced anywhere from $200 to $1,700. Finding helpful information online
is difficult.

What I want is something in the 20" to 24" range, with solid (but not
necessarily professional) color fidelity, quick response rate (a much
b/c I do a lot of gaming). I've budgeted up to $1,000.
Bells-and-whistles aren't necessary, such as USB ports or built-in
speakers.

Any suggestions? Or at least pointers to information so I can make an
informed purchase?

Thanks!

Atticus
Warren Oates - 15 Mar 2007 14:58 GMT
> What I want is something in the 20" to 24" range, with solid (but not
> necessarily professional) color fidelity, quick response rate (a much
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> Any suggestions? Or at least pointers to information so I can make an
> informed purchase?

With your budget:

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?
mco=9F8FBAD3&nclm=AppleDisplays

I have one of these:

http://gear.ign.com/articles/699/699896p1.html

which I like a lot, cost CDN $320 about 6 months ago.
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Atticus - 15 Mar 2007 15:09 GMT
Yeah, you know, the Apple Displays are rilly tempting, but I'm worried
that the 14ms response rate will cause ghosting issues with games. True?
Not true? My understanding that 12ms is about the highest you can go
without problems.

That BenQ looks nice, though. Hmmmmm. :-)

> mco=9F8FBAD3&nclm=AppleDisplays
Atticus - 15 Mar 2007 15:21 GMT
Which also further proves my point: the 20" Apple Display is going for
$700, while the BenQ, which has a quicker response rate than the Apple
Display, is $200 on Newegg.

Even adjusting for APPL's higher prices for hardware, I don't get it.

(tears out hair)

> 12ms
Adrian - 15 Mar 2007 22:00 GMT
> Yeah, you know, the Apple Displays are rilly tempting, but I'm worried
> that the 14ms response rate will cause ghosting issues with games. True?
> Not true? My understanding that 12ms is about the highest you can go
> without problems.

IMHO many of the specifications which are given for displays do not
translate well to real-life performance. I've never seen ghosting on
fast movement on my Apple 20 inch Cinema ... I've had it for 2.5 years
and it remains an absolute delight.

Spec sheets give some general guide perhaps but with displays you've
really just got to look with your own eyes!

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Gregory Weston - 15 Mar 2007 15:25 GMT
> Sorry in advance if this is the wrong place for this query.
>
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> Any suggestions? Or at least pointers to information so I can make an
> informed purchase?

I've been very happy with my Dell 2007WFP. It's a dual-input 20
widescreen that's rotatable (although not all video cards support this).
Color and viewing angle are great. It's on sale roughly 1/3 of the time.
David C. - 16 Mar 2007 00:07 GMT
> What I want is something in the 20" to 24" range, with solid (but not
> necessarily professional) color fidelity, quick response rate (a much
> b/c I do a lot of gaming). I've budgeted up to $1,000.
> Bells-and-whistles aren't necessary, such as USB ports or built-in
> speakers.

I'm very happy with a Dell 2405FPW.  This model is now discontinued, but
I'm told that its replacement, the 2407WFP is also very good.

This is a 24" widescreen panel.  Native resolution of 1920x1200.  It has
five inputs (DVI, VGA, component video, S-video, and composite video)
and a few other things you say you're not interested in (USB hub, memory
card reader, optional audio, etc.)

As far as I can tell, the only differences between the current model and
the one I own are cosmetic.  The case is a bit different, different
stand, etc.  The spec sheet itself hasn't really changed.

MSRP is $700.  It is frequently on sale for a bit less ($630 right now.)

Assuming they don't change their URLs, here's a link to it, so you can
look up the specs:
   http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?sku=320-4335

-- David
Eric Lindsay - 18 Mar 2007 06:39 GMT
> In any event, I'm tired of staring at the large block that is my 19" CRT
> (attached to a 2.66 Mac Pro with Radeon X1900). I'm ready to jump over
> to LCD land, but have no idea what monitor to consider. The LCD market
> is confusing, with monitors of similar size and features seemingly
> priced anywhere from $200 to $1,700. Finding helpful information online
> is difficult.

Quality seems highly variable, and I wouldn't trust some specifications.
Some makers seem more conservative about what they claim.

> What I want is something in the 20" to 24" range, with solid (but not
> necessarily professional) color fidelity, quick response rate (a much
> b/c I do a lot of gaming). I've budgeted up to $1,000.
> Bells-and-whistles aren't necessary, such as USB ports or built-in
> speakers.

I like the Dell 2405FPW (the current Dell version is the Dell 2407FPW).
The 1920 x 1200 gives you a 1080P TV display. It has about 5 inputs
(composite, component, VGA, DVI or HDMI), and does picture in picture.
Very handy as a dual purpose monitor. It has a thin surround that is
reasonably neat, and the front panel controls are conveniently to hand.

The response rate seems sufficient to me, but I don't do games. I do use
the thing as  my TV and my DVD player display.

It can be oriented as landscape or portrait. My PowerBook had
appropriate  support, so I imagine your Mac Pro will also.

It does have some bells and whistles, like a USB repeater, and digital
camera card readers, but these don't get in the way.

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Shawn Hirn - 21 Apr 2007 11:43 GMT
> Sorry in advance if this is the wrong place for this query.
>
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> Any suggestions? Or at least pointers to information so I can make an
> informed purchase?

Why not buy an Apple Cinema Display? I have the 30" model on my Mac Pro
at work and I love it. I get nothing but oohs and ahs from people every
time someone sees it for the first time. The smaller Apple displays are
just as impressive.
mag - 11 May 2007 04:11 GMT
> Sorry in advance if this is the wrong place for this query.
>
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>
> Atticus
I recently purchased the Gateway FPD2485W. I think it's great, and plus
it's a 1080p HD TV. The has been reduced since I bought mine. It has a
6ms response time.
John Albert - 11 May 2007 15:22 GMT
<< I recently purchased the Gateway FPD2485W. I think it's great, and plus
it's a 1080p HD TV. The has been reduced since I bought mine. It has a 6ms
response time. >>

Are you having any problems with the backlight bleeding through on the Gateway?

- John
mag - 15 May 2007 03:59 GMT
> << I recently purchased the Gateway FPD2485W. I think it's great, and plus
> it's a 1080p HD TV. The has been reduced since I bought mine. It has a 6ms
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>
> - John

Not that I've noticed. If you have a picture of what this looks like,
please post it. AFAICT, I have a beautiful picture.
 
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