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Networking 2 older Macs (G3 and 7500)

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D. Kirkpatrick - 25 Oct 2005 10:52 GMT
I may have a need to resurrect an older 7500 to run some idling
applications that will monitor the net and e-mail for a while.

The G3 runs os 9.2.2 and the 7500 was retired on OS 8.6.  The software
I need to run will do OK on 8.6.

What might be the best way to get these two machines talking together?

I presently have the G3 and 2 Win PC's on ethernet to a router and DSL
modem for net access. I know the two PCs will talk to each other
through the router.  Can I also do this to get the two Macs to talk to
each other (via ethernet) through the router?  Or would the old Apple
LAN (Apple Share) be the way? The need to "talk" between the systems
will be minimal and incidental to just activate and monitor certain
programs. This would save me from having to run a second monitor and
keyboard after initial set up.

Suggestions welcome.

DMK
Tom Stiller - 25 Oct 2005 12:19 GMT
> I may have a need to resurrect an older 7500 to run some idling
> applications that will monitor the net and e-mail for a while.
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>
> Suggestions welcome.

If the router will pass AppleTalk protocol (my Linksys BESFR41 does),
things should work OK.

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D. Kirkpatrick - 25 Oct 2005 12:35 GMT
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> If the router will pass AppleTalk protocol (my Linksys BESFR41 does),
> things should work OK.

D-Link 604, 4 port

Not sure if I have to open any ports on it though.

DMK
Tom Stiller - 25 Oct 2005 12:38 GMT
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> <tomstiller-A6BDCC.07193025102005@comcast.dca.giganews.com>,
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> Not sure if I have to open any ports on it though.

Opening ports is an issue between the LAN and WAN.  You should have no
problem with LAN connected computers.

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Me - 25 Oct 2005 18:24 GMT
> > I may have a need to resurrect an older 7500 to run some idling
> > applications that will monitor the net and e-mail for a while.
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> If the router will pass AppleTalk protocol (my Linksys BESFR41 does),
> things should work OK.

The router will not be an issue, because both machines will be on the
LAN side. This is the same as if they were both just connected to a hub
or switch.  As long as the nodes are connected inside the routers NAT
and Firewall, the Appletalk Protocol will just share the same copper
segments with the IP Protocols.  The question comes up, only when you
try to access wireles ssegments, or try to cross to the WAN Segment,
where the Appletalk Protocol may not cross thru, due to lack of a
Protocol transfer Stack for Appletalk.

Me
D. Kirkpatrick - 25 Oct 2005 18:35 GMT
> The router will not be an issue, because both machines will be on the
> LAN side. This is the same as if they were both just connected to a hub
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> where the Appletalk Protocol may not cross thru, due to lack of a
> Protocol transfer Stack for Appletalk.

No that should not be an issue.

The plan will be (if executed) to have each Mac talk to each other via
ethernet via the touter (LAN side) but each will also access thenet on
their own to handle e-mail needs.

The Win boxes already do that.
srm - 25 Oct 2005 13:22 GMT
> What might be the best way to get these two machines talking together?

If you set AppleTalk to use Ethernet on both, that would probably do the
trick. I had an old (beige) G3 and a PowerBook 3400c talking that way. I
still use the PowerBook to log into shares on my Linux boxes, which are
running Atalk.
D. Kirkpatrick - 26 Oct 2005 04:30 GMT
> If you set AppleTalk to use Ethernet on both, that would probably do the
> trick. I had an old (beige) G3 and a PowerBook 3400c talking that way. I
> still use the PowerBook to log into shares on my Linux boxes, which are
> running Atalk.

Great!
 
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