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.Net od Mono under MacOS X?

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Christoph Vogelbusch - 17 Jan 2005 08:01 GMT
Hi,

I'm just new to Mac and I would like to do my first progrmming steps on
the Mac.

Is there something like .Net or Mono existing for The Mac OS X Platform?

Greetings
 Christoph
Brion Vibber - 17 Jan 2005 22:10 GMT
> I'm just new to Mac and I would like to do my first progrmming steps on
> the Mac.
>
> Is there something like .Net or Mono existing for The Mac OS X Platform?

Mono is available for Mac OS X.
http://www.mono-project.com/

If you want to do GUI programming for the Mac, though, .net/Mono
probably isn't the best place to start as native GUI frameworks for it
(Cocoa#) are still under development and the Windows.Forms and Gtk#
aren't really adapted well yet.

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Christoph Vogelbusch - 18 Jan 2005 06:55 GMT
Hi Brion,

thanks for your information. That means for it's not usable yet, but
.Net is worth learning as it WILL work under MacOSX one day.

Thank you!

Greetings
 Christoph
> If you want to do GUI programming for the Mac, though, .net/Mono
> probably isn't the best place to start as native GUI frameworks for it
> (Cocoa#) are still under development and the Windows.Forms and Gtk#
> aren't really adapted well yet.
>
> -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Ian Robinson - 18 Jan 2005 08:55 GMT
> thanks for your information. That means for it's not usable yet, but
> .Net is worth learning as it WILL work under MacOSX one day.

If you want to do MacOS X apps then Cocoa might be a a better choice.

Ian

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Christoph Vogelbusch - 19 Jan 2005 06:48 GMT
> If you want to do MacOS X apps then Cocoa might be a a better choice.
Actually my focus is not on creating apps, but learning programming for
the future.

So what I would really like to learn is Java and .Net (mostly C#)
Simon Slavin - 21 Jan 2005 22:23 GMT
On 19/01/2005, Christoph Vogelbusch wrote in message <41ee029c@news-fe-01>:

> Actually my focus is not on creating apps, but learning programming for
> the future.
>
> So what I would really like to learn is Java and .Net (mostly C#)

If you think either .Net or C# represent the future of programming,

a) you should learn more about programming
b) they're Microsoft-only products so you'll have to use Windows

Simon.
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David Phillip Oster - 26 Jan 2005 17:10 GMT
> > If you want to do MacOS X apps then Cocoa might be a a better choice.
> Actually my focus is not on creating apps, but learning programming for
> the future.
>
> So what I would really like to learn is Java and .Net (mostly C#)

Open the program XCode (in /Developer/Tools ) (or run the XCode
installer in /Applications/Installers if XCode isn't where its supposed
to be, Use the "New Project" menu item on XCode's File menu, create a
new Cocoa-Java project, and get busy coding in Java.

Or, download eclipse for Mac OS X
<http://developer.apple.com/tools/eclipse.html> from
<http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/> and get busy in pure Java.

However, if you decide you want to learn something about application
programming DESIGN as opposed to application PROGRAMMING, read the
Macintosh User Interface Guidelines, and work with Cocoa in Java or
Objective-C.

You might also want to take a look at Jef Raskin's
<http://humane.sourceforge.net/the/not_an_editor.html>
Thomas Engelmeier - 21 Jan 2005 18:36 GMT
> I'm just new to Mac and I would like to do my first progrmming steps on
> the Mac.
>
> Is there something like .Net or Mono existing for The Mac OS X Platform?

GNU.Net also has an Mac port with the same restrictions.

Be aware that mono/mcs had an horrible C# parser with very undecent
error messages, so your first step might be to use the SSCLI C# compiler
on MacOS X (for compiler error reporting...) and mono for execution
(generally - for my code - far faster).

Regards,
  Tom_E

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