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9.1 to 9.2.2 on a G3'd 7500?

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Geoffrey - 22 Dec 2003 00:57 GMT
I've got a 7500 with a PowerLogix G3 card in it.

I've tried both the 9.1-to-9.2 update and a full copy of the 9.2.2
Install CD (from a 10.1.3 retail pack) to get my machine to 9.2.2, but
the installers from both the CD and the updater say I "cannot run this
software on this machine."

How the heck does one get a CPU-upgraded machine to run 9.2.2? Thoughts?

Geoffrey

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Don Bruder - 22 Dec 2003 02:35 GMT
> I've got a 7500 with a PowerLogix G3 card in it.
>
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> How the heck does one get a CPU-upgraded machine to run 9.2.2? Thoughts?

You don't unless you've got X aboard. 9.2.x is tweaks and changes
specifically for supporting the "Classic" environment under X. As such,
it isn't *REALLY* a standalone OS. More like a compatibility environment
for X.

XPost-Facto is out there and should be able to help you install X on a
7500 that's been hopped up to a G3, but I wouldn't have any big
expectations for speed out of it. Mine has a Sonnet G4@350 and I'm still
waffling about whether I even want to try putting X on it because of the
speed issue. I've heard too many times that even though a Beige G3 is a
supported machine for X (at least up through 1.x) it isn't recommended
because it pretty much turns into a fat lazy dog.

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D.F. Manno - 22 Dec 2003 04:53 GMT
> > I've got a 7500 with a PowerLogix G3 card in it.
> >
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> it isn't *REALLY* a standalone OS. More like a compatibility environment
> for X.

Except that some software requires 9.2.x if you're not running X.

The OP should check out "OS 9 Helper," which makes it possible to
install 9.2.x on officially unsupported machines, including the 7500. It
can be found at

<http://www.os9forever.com/>
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Geoffrey - 22 Dec 2003 08:39 GMT
> > > How the heck does one get a CPU-upgraded machine to run 9.2.2?

> > You don't unless you've got X aboard.

And I'd use X like I need an ADB port in the back of my skull. I like
the 'classic' UI, the OSX one looks (and behaves) like it was designed
by some tripping-on-LSD gerbils in a jellybean factory.

(Old-timers will have heard my anti-OSX rants before :) and yes, I do
use OSX but I don't like it. And I still delete Terminal. There is
nothing I can do in OSX that I can't do in OS9. Or OS8. Or System 6, for
that matter.)

> > ... 9.2.x is tweaks and changes specifically for supporting the
> > "Classic" environment under X. As such, it isn't *REALLY* a standalone
> > OS.

Yes, I've often said that myself, that 9.1 should be enough, that
anything after that is essentially "loaded with Classic compatibility
baggage" ... but it is not true.

> <http://www.os9forever.com/>

Thank you to both people who replied, I've downloaded OS9 Helper, have
MacOS 9.2.2 running on a G3'd 7500 and it is faster, more stable and
more responsive than 9.1. And not a sign of OSX anywhere to be seen.

Geoffrey

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Nikki - 23 Dec 2003 09:38 GMT
> > > > How the heck does one get a CPU-upgraded machine to run 9.2.2?
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> nothing I can do in OSX that I can't do in OS9. Or OS8. Or System 6, for
> that matter.)

I concur with you Geoffrey.  This is the first time (since 6.0.4) that
an upgrade hasn't been simple that: a step upwards. Sure there's some
useful stuff in OSX and it's still preferable to Windoze, but there's
so much it won't do.

I'm keeping my old PPC to run 9.2.2 (and doesn't it go!!)

Nikki
plasmodium - 24 Dec 2003 07:44 GMT
just the opposite for moi, just deleted Classic, and use terminal every
day......

> > > > > How the heck does one get a CPU-upgraded machine to run 9.2.2?
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> Nikki
Peter KERR - 25 Dec 2003 21:10 GMT
>  How the heck does one get a CPU-upgraded machine to run 9.2.2?

http://www.os9forever.com/
David - 27 Dec 2003 23:27 GMT
...and it works like a dream...

David

> >  How the heck does one get a CPU-upgraded machine to run 9.2.2?
>
> http://www.os9forever.com/
Mark & Roz Creely - 22 Dec 2003 08:25 GMT
> I've got a 7500 with a PowerLogix G3 card in it.
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Geoffry,

Try OS9 forever, that will answer your question

www.os9forever.com

regards Mark
 
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