Aiport base station configuration

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Rasputin - 07 Jul 2003 08:27 GMT

Hi all,

Can anyone help me set-up my base station correctly? I have it working but
it's not right.

I have an ADSL ethernet modem running as a DHCP server to share my internet.
The IPs it hands out are in the range 192.168.*.*. The base station is
currently 192.168.1.243, and I have a win 98 PC (for testing) and a beige G3
on ethernet which also get internet access through an IP in this range.

Then my wife & I each have a powerbook with airport. We can get internet
too, and connect to each other's computer, but can't get to anything on the
ethernet network. Our IPs are 10.0.1.* which seem to be handed out by the
base station. It must be acting as a DHCP server itself.

We can't print nor file-share with any computer on the wired network.

Now, just to complicate matters, I would like to get internet access into
Virtual PC running on my powerbook.

To me it would seem that all I need to do is disable DHCP on the base
station, and just let the ADSL modem hand out IPs for everything, wired or
not, including Win 98 under VPC.

Will it work like that? If so, can someone tell me exactly what option I
should use on the "Network" tab of the Airport Admin Utility?

Thanks,
Jeff

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Mike Harris - 08 Jul 2003 06:15 GMT

Hi Rasputin

> Can anyone help me set-up my base station correctly?

I don't have a base station, but have shared internet & files between macs &
PC's ...

> I have an ADSL ethernet modem running ...

Lucky bastard!

>... my wife & I each have a powerbook with airport. We can get internet
> too, and connect to each other's computer, but can't get to anything on the
> ethernet ... We can't print nor file-share with any computer on the wired

network.

O.K. - that says to me that the base station's working, but you haven't
setup file sharing properly.
on the macs, this is done via appletalk ... You have to 'share' a
folder/volume, then set yourselfs up as users with access ...not having a
mac on me at the moment, RTFM, and see the "Three Macs & A Printer" website
http://www.atpm.com/network/

> Now, just to complicate matters, I would like to get internet access into
> Virtual PC running on my powerbook.

If your PB can surf, so can VPC - again, RTFM - it's pretty simple! There
shoud be adequate info in the help centre (there was for me!).

> To me it would seem that all I need to do is disable DHCP on the base
> station, and just let the ADSL modem hand out IPs for everything, wired or
> not, including Win 98 under VPC.

If TCP/IP is working (i.e. you're surfing & emailing) leave it alone - if it
ain't broke, dont fix it!

> Will it work like that? If so, can someone tell me exactly what option I
> should use on the "Network" tab of the Airport Admin Utility?

These are just guesses based on what info you've given us, and my past
experience, but (in a nutshell):
If you're accessing the internet, then the hardware's o.k., and most of the
configs are too - all you need to do is enable file sharing!

Hope this helps!

miklos

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Charlie Franklin - 08 Jul 2003 12:43 GMT

> Hi all,
>
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> currently 192.168.1.243, and I have a win 98 PC (for testing) and a beige G3
> on ethernet which also get internet access through an IP in this range.

> Then my wife & I each have a powerbook with airport. We can get internet
> too, and connect to each other's computer, but can't get to anything on the
> ethernet network. Our IPs are 10.0.1.* which seem to be handed out by the
> base station. It must be acting as a DHCP server itself

You should only have one DHCP server on your network. I suggest the router.

Not sure what base station you are running, but when I had a Graphite
one, I found it easier to set all my IP address manually. I now have an
extreme, and it does it fine itself. Handling DHCP can use up a fair bit
of the processing power of a base station.

> We can't print nor file-share with any computer on the wired network.

Used to work fine with me in above situation. I assume if you connect to
the wired network, it all works fine?

Are you running OS X? This is a lot more friendly on networks then the
older systems.

> Now, just to complicate matters, I would like to get internet access into
> Virtual PC running on my powerbook.
>
> To me it would seem that all I need to do is disable DHCP on the base
> station, and just let the ADSL modem hand out IPs for everything, wired or
> not, including Win 98 under VPC.

If your going to use DHCP, this is the way to go, but I think manual
IP's are better.

I'm not sure about VPC, as it's a long time since I ran it, but I do
have a real PC on my network, and it picks up IP address fine. Not sure
how to set one manually on a PC.

> Will it work like that? If so, can someone tell me exactly what option I
> should use on the "Network" tab of the Airport Admin Utility?

Hope this helps

> Thanks,
> Jeff

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Martin Foot - 16 Jul 2003 21:11 GMT

... Our IPs are 10.0.1.* which seem to be handed out by the

> base station. It must be acting as a DHCP server itself.

There is a checkbox in the configuration dialog of the Utility to
"distribute IP addresses" or somesuch.

> We can't print nor file-share with any computer on the wired network.

By running DHCP itself, the BS is effectively isolating your network from
the router's higher-level network. Either put the BS at the top of the
heirarchy or switch off IP distribution. Also check your Appletalk setting
- either Airport or Ethernet can use Appletalk but not both (there's a
checkbox in System Preferences:Network).

I agree with the advice that either your router should be distributing
addresses or alternatively the Airport BS, but not both. I run my
broadband feed into my BS (with "distribute addresses "on") then into a
switch and the combination is effectively a router for all computers on my
network wired and wireless.

If you use the router then switch off this option in Utility, then your
airport enabled Macs should receive 168. addresses from the router. The BS
just acts as a hub.

Martin Foot

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Macjra - 28 Jul 2003 03:44 GMT

Hi Jeff,

You airport is not correctly setup. Since you are sharing the ADSL
connection from your ADSL ethernet modem, you don't need your airport to
run as DHCP server anymore.

You can see the KBase article
(http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58597) on how to make the
airport as a bridge (note: this is different from Airport Bridging).

The basic idea is to uncheck the distribute IP addresses from the
<network> tab on Airport Admin Assitant. Once that is done, you should be
on the 192.168.*.* network and you should be able to file share and print
to other computer on the same network.

Regards,
Linus Yong

> Hi all,
>
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> Thanks,
> Jeff

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Aiport base station configuration