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Recording using line in on a mac - help!

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chriski - 21 Nov 2003 10:51 GMT
Hi everyone. I am having some trouble recording using the line in on my
emac 1gig, 3 months old. It is running version 10.3.4 and has ample ram.
 My recordings are over an hour long, and they do record, but the file
skips a few miliseconds along the way. I am recording using Sound
Studio. any ideas?
FooBard - 21 Nov 2003 13:27 GMT
In article <o6mvb.20397$aT.12567@news-server.bigpond.net.au>, chriski
<chris_insert_full_stop_at_this_point_and_take_away_the_spaces_szymanski
@bigpond.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone. I am having some trouble recording using the line in on my
> emac 1gig, 3 months old. It is running version 10.3.4 and has ample ram.
>   My recordings are over an hour long, and they do record, but the file
> skips a few miliseconds along the way. I am recording using Sound
> Studio. any ideas?

This sounds tricky. I've used Sound studio for longish things and never
had this issue. When you say the file 'skips' is it a GAP or a JUMP? Is
it AUDIBLE or just MISSING?  Is it repeatable? Random?  Have you
changed all leads and got the same result?.  Do you do anything else on
the Mac while recording?  

Sorry if this sounds likes the B***Obvious, but that's the only way to
isolate audio problems - changing things around can be a good way of
testing a physically complex system.

A the Mac end, the first thought is to junk Sound Studio and reinstall
it, and then see if the problem is gone; that's easier than
reinstalling the OS, which is next on the list.

BTW, what's 10.3.4 ??  The Apple Site is still offering 10.3.1 as the
only update.

FooBard
chriski - 23 Nov 2003 02:57 GMT
There are missing bits on my recordings, small samples. Strangely, there
 are no audible clicks, my recordings just go out of beat for a second,
and a few msec's of the recordings simply don't get recorded. I don't
touch the mac while it is recording. I'll give re-installing Sound
Studio a go.

And, consider my version a typo. I'm using 10.2.4.

Thankyou for your suggestions FooBard

> In article <o6mvb.20397$aT.12567@news-server.bigpond.net.au>, chriski
> <chris_insert_full_stop_at_this_point_and_take_away_the_spaces_szymanski
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> FooBard
Steve Jay - 24 Nov 2003 01:27 GMT
Sounds to me like a "latency" problem, ie the machine couldn't handle
the data for a second, due to some other process in the system, and
those bits of the stream get lost. On a 1Ghz eMac that would most
likely be the result of heavy file fragmentation (for the
non-technically inclined: where there isn't a large enough block of
free space to write the file without breaking it somewhere in the
middle)

First get a copy of Norton Utilities (or other) and defragment that
disk.

Then where possible, record your files in smaller chunks than 1 hour,
10 minutes should be good for a maximum. If you're ripping vinyl, do
it one track at a time, if you're recording longish performances (ie
opera, theatre, radio, tv), open a new window in sound studio every 5
minutes +/- 1, start it recording, then stop the old window, save it
and close it. (If you use this method, defrag before editing and
playback, too)

> There are missing bits on my recordings, small samples. Strangely, there
>   are no audible clicks, my recordings just go out of beat for a second,
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> >
> > FooBard
Fraser Wright - 26 Nov 2003 11:55 GMT
I've had this problem recording when other processes on the machine start
doing things. Make sure you don't have any unnescessary software running
and especially timed backround processes doing things like backup.

I eventually got perfect recordings using rawrec, not on a mac but it is a
*nix utility so you maybe able to use it with OS X. Rawrec will let you
record upto a bit over 3 hours in one file. Interestingly the computer I
use is a pentium I 150 MHz with 32meg ram and a 60 gig disk. Works very
nicely now though. I don't necessary think that fragmentation is your
problem since it's new and i've never defraged my computer and have no
problems. Though i suppose we do run very different systems.

Anyway try stop other software and backround jobs, before investigating
other recording software.

> There are missing bits on my recordings, small samples. Strangely, there
>   are no audible clicks, my recordings just go out of beat for a second,
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> > FooBard
 
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